Part-3 The Seven Thunders

Part 3 — The Seven Thunders Revelation 10 — January 31, 2026 Rev. John Shane Vaughn — First Harvest Ministries International ________________ 1 The book of Revelation, chapter 10; this is part three of the seven thunders; Revelation 10 and verse three; there is nothing I love more than opening this book; and cried with a loud voice as when a lion roareth. 2 And when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices; and when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write; and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. 3 Amen — Father Yahweh, thy word is eternal; I am nothing but a broken, pitiful man; I am nothing but a mouth; but I give it to thee today; and I ask thee, there are people that have come here today because they depend on that showbread changed out every seventh day. 4 The priests of the temple depend on fresh word, fresh manna, fresh understanding of who their God is and what his plans are for this earth; Father, I thank thee that thou trustedst me with these precious saints; I thank thee that thou trustedst me to teach them thy word; I never take that lightly. 5 Would thou help thy pitiful servant, the lips of an unprofitable servant today? Would thou help me, Lord? Deliver this great message, the revelation of the end time; in the name of Yeshua we pray — amen. 6 Thou mayest be seated; I am going to ask for thy full attention for just a little moment; I need to talk to thee some more about these seven thunders; now, it is going to take several weeks to bring to thee the totality of what they mean. 7 But I never ever want us to lose sight of why we arrived at the seven thunders; now remember, I am not yet teaching on the book of Revelation — that is coming in the future; so why are we diving so deep into Revelation chapter 10? Because it is connected to what message? Someone tell me. 8 Say it again — the what message? The finishing message; let me get an exclusive title; what have we been teaching on for many months now? Construction continues — the seventh temple; so why are we talking about thunders if we are talking about the seventh temple? Talk to me. 9 Because the temple hath a purpose — Sister Kirk, thou saidst it; the purpose of the temple hath always been to bring forth the voice of Yahweh in the earth; now why is that? Because there is no place on earth that is called God radio. 10 There is no transmission on earth that saith Yahweh's voice; now we found out last week that the voice of Yahweh uttereth forth from the throne in heaven twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, but not on earth; and that is why his will is not being done on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Now there are many people that believe the will of God is going to be done no matter what — thou art wrong; the will of God cannot be done without a partner; it cannot be done; dost thou think it was the will of God for Adam and all of his descendants to suffer the way we have? Come on now, wake up. 12 No — it was his will that thou prosper and be in health even as thy soul prospereth; how many of thee when thou lookest back over thy life, thou seest those areas where if thou wouldest have worked with God a little bit better, his will would be done in thy life — amen. 13 Because Sister Shablet, his will is for thee to be in health and to prosper and to have children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren all going to church together — that is his will; but for that to happen, thou hast got to go to church; come on now — somebody hath got to join up with Yahweh. 14 Now let me come behind that statement and clear it up for thee; Yahweh's will cannot be done without a man; but this, I promise thee — he will always have a man; therefore, his will is always being done — amen; because in the end of this thing, he will always have a man. 15 He said, I sought for a man and I found none — that is why I had to send judgment; I could not find a partner that would declare my will on earth; so the purpose of the temple is to become the clear voice of truth. 16 I want to say something to thee that may sound a little braggadocious, but God help me; I listen — I do not know about thee, but I scroll just like thou doest on my phone; I scroll on YouTube just like thou doest; I do not hear that sound anywhere. 17 I see Sabbath-keepers, but I do not hear the sound; I am telling thee, there is a sound that is going to come forth from the temple and it is going to cause thee to know his voice of truth — amen. 18 And so when we read in Revelation, why did God seal up the seven thunders? Not because these thunders are dangerous; the fact is they are not even thunder — just wait for a moment; they are not dangerous; it is not because they were forbidden, but because they were incomplete. 19 The word that was thundered in Revelation 10 was not meant to be read on paper, John; it was meant to be revealed in people — hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah; do not write it down, John, because it is not to be written; it is to be spoken through the seven thunders. 20 Hallelujah — oh, thou might want to wake up today; hallelujah, hallelujah; let me show thee why he did not want it written down; Brother Ryan, Minister Ryan, bring me that little box on that table back there; hallelujah, I am going to show thee why he did not want it written down. 21 Here is a little box — thank thee, minister; this little box is covered in writing; oh God, it hath got so much writing, and most people would take this and say, oh, it hath got riboflavin, folate, B12, biotin, calcium, iodine; is that not wonderful? It hath got iodine, magnesium — how wonderful. 22 And it hath got zinc — is that not marvelous? It hath got selenium in it, and copper, and manganese, and chromium; and as a matter of fact, thou oughtest to go buy some, it is good; but nevertheless, thou knowest, I am always selling. 23 And oh, it hath got fish oil — concentrated fish oil, not regular; oh, and it hath got unforgettables — I forgot to take them, hallelujah; and it hath got turmeric, and it hath got green tea; set the box down, idiot, and take the pill. 24 Eat the book — eat the book — do not read it, eat it — hallelujah; the Christian church walketh around reading the book, but God told John, take that little book and become everything on the box — hallelujah; put it in thy mouth. 25 Do not read about calcium — let them run through thy body — he said, John, there is going to be a people at the end time that is not reading the text; they are eating the text; my God, it is transforming inside of them — yes, sir. 26 Let me show thee how this worketh; inside of here — that is fish oil; I do not need it, I have got a mouth full of water; I am not eating it now; that is a nasty floor; hand it — for a demonstration though, I will let thee eat it. 27 I will eat it — let us get another one; hold that now; now, brother, we need to study this pill — yes, sir — it hath got — it hath got all kind of stuff in it. 28 Now what I read was — the way I interpret that is — it might — but I do not know what kind of fish oil it is; is it cod or what? Catfish oil; I tell thee what though, it is some good reading; a lot of reading; a lot of reading on it. 29 The angel said, John, open thy mouth; eat the book, son; now, now, now, now what thou readest, what thou readest — thou art becoming; yes — hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah. 30 The problem with every move of God is it createth studiers and readers; but no experience, no internal change, nothing; listen, if thou dost not take what is in that written box, nothing in thee will change. 31 Dost thou know what happeneth when I pop that dope in my mouth? My blood beginneth to change; I was making sure I did not have holes this time in my socks, the last time I did — making sure that the fish oil when it goeth in it beginneth to coagulate thy blood, or uncoagulate, one of the two. 32 Something beginneth to change — that magnesium beginneth to alter things; thou wilt begin to watch thy levels level out; oh, thy temper — oh, come on now, come on; thou wilt begin to see thy temper — is anybody hearing with that other ear? With the other ear — oh, things will begin to — that was too high, and what kind — things that was too low. 33 Thou knowest, when thou starteth experiencing the book, many of thee hit that Tuesday low — amen, discouraged; I never get discouraged; I could be standing in a courtroom by myself in front of a federal judge and I am still not discouraged; I never get discouraged — I eat the book, I eat the pill, I live by it, I absorb it. 34 I want to tell those of thee — put the screen up so I can look in their eyeballs — I want to tell every one of thee something; there are some of thee watching me right now who can debate the Sabbath doctrine with anybody; thou hast read it; thou canst debate holy days with anybody; thou hast read it. 35 Thou canst debate if the son of God or God the — thou canst debate it because thou hast read it; but there are some of thee that have not changed a dime's lick of nothing since thou heard this message; and it is not inside of thee, therefore it is not changing thee. 36 If thou art still the rebellious wife thou wast when thou heard this message, thou needest to take a pill; if thou art still the horrible husband that mistreateth his wife, thou needest to take the pill — amen; if thou still hast a temper, thou needest to take the pill; if thou art still getting depressed, thou needest to take the pill. 37 Why? There is nothing in that book that will help thee by reading it — nothing; thou hast got to eat the book — hallelujah; he told John, no, what I am about to bring forth in the last day, it will not be written in the Bible; oh, God from Zion, oh God from Zion, oh God. 38 I do not want my God — he said — he said, I am writing a chapter that nobody can read; they can only experience it, it can only be revealed — woo, woo! Why dost thou not want me to write it, God? Because if thou writest it down, it is going to fall in the hands of carnal people and they are going to debate over it on Facebook. 39 They are going to fight over it on Facebook, and they are going to turn it into a boxing match; he said, but what I want thee to do is just wait, because when this happeneth it will not be written down anywhere; it will be revealed in people. 40 Let me tell thee if I may what these seven thunders are; the answer was in thy Bible the whole time; the problem is thou wast reading it, not eating it; people ask me a lot of times, how didst thou get that out of that verse? I did not read it — I ate it. 41 How many of thee have read that scripture — love thy enemies? Didst thou eat it? How about that scripture that said, do good to everybody that doeth thee horrible — didst thou eat it or didst thou read it? Come on now, come on now; some of thee are so busy reading a book that thou forgottest to eat a book. 42 Here is what the seven thunders are; verse 10 — verse three rather, sorry — Revelation 10; and cried with a loud voice as when a lion roareth; and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered voices; I just showed thee what the thunders are — they are voices. 43 And I do not know if thou knowest what it taketh to carry a message — it taketh a voice; so for everybody that is waiting on seven thunders — no, thou art waiting on a complete voice; a mature voice; a voice that bringeth it all together; a voice that is a message that is the seven thunders — hallelujah. 44 The seven thunders uttered their what? Their voices; and when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I started to write; what doth that tell thee? Think about it; when is the only time thou pullest out a pen to start writing? What? No — no. 45 When somebody is up lecturing, when someone is preaching, thou art ready to write down what thou heard in the message; evidently, John did not hear thunder; he heard a perfect message that would tie everything together into perfection, and he wanted to write it down. 46 But Yahweh said, do not write this one down, because when that message getteth ready to come forth, thou wilt not find it written in the Bible; thou wilt have to hear it in a voice; thou wilt have to hear it in a voice, but not a voice — a seven voice. 47 Seven is the number of completion and perfection; voices is the word; so let us take those two meanings and read the scripture again; and cried with a loud voice as when a lion roareth; I do not know how some of thee folks are going to go into the kingdom — everywhere I read is loud, everything is loud. 48 I mean everything loud, voices loud, everything loud; I do not know what y'all are going to do; there are not going to be any earplugs in the kingdom; everything is going to be loud — amen; as when a lion roareth, if thou hast got a preacher that doth not sound like a lion, thou hast not got no preacher. 49 Oh yeah, thou hast got a TED talker; thou hast got a TED talker; I am not a TED talker — mm; and when a lion roareth, and when he had cried, seven — let us take the word seven out — a complete message came forth in a voice; hallelujah. 50 And when that complete message had uttered the message of the voice, I was about to write, and I heard a voice saying unto me, seal it up, do not write this; these seven thunders are not random noises in heaven; they are not cosmic static; I will tell thee what they are — the complete word, the full revelation of Yeshua. 51 I want thee to hear what I am about to tell thee; now I need thee to pause just a moment and let this sink in; everybody that is waiting for me to teach on the book of Revelation — the book of Revelation is not about the end times; it is the revelation of a man by the name of Yeshua, the Messiah. 52 Go read the first line of the first book of Revelation; the whole book is revealing a man; and he said that everybody will mess up who he is until the end time, when a full revelation of Yeshua will come forth. 53 Let us just go over this complete word represented by the seven thunders; seven days of creation; Enoch, the seventh son from Adam; seven pairs of clean animals in the ark; Jacob served for Rachel seven years; Pharaoh had a dream of seven years of plenty, seven years of famine. 54 Seven nations were driven out of Canaan land; seven branches on the menorah; seven lamps before the throne; the blood was sprinkled seven times on the day of atonement; seven days for the consecration of the priesthood. 55 The seventh-day Sabbath; the seventh month; the seven weeks; the seventh year; seven times seven — Jubilee forty-nine; seven days of Passover; seven days of Tabernacles. 56 Seven priests with seven trumpets marched around Jericho seven times on the seventh day; the seven spirits of Yahweh; Naaman dipped in the river seven times; oh, there are seven churches; seven spirits; seven candlesticks; seven stars. 57 Seven lamps of fire; seven seals; seven horns; seven eyes; seven angels; seven trumpets; seven thunders; seven heads on a dragon; seven crowns; seven plagues; seven hills; seven mountains; seven kings. 58 Seven — if thou dost not keep the seventh-day Sabbath, thou art not qualified to understand the Bible; I will say it again; it is impossible to interpret the Bible without a full revelation of seven; and honey, if thou art not celebrating seven, thou dost not understand seven. 59 Only one group of people in the earth is qualified to open this book and open the seals thereof — seven; Sunday is the mark of the beast — amen; I do not care what thou likest or dost not like; if it doth not bear the authority of Yahweh, it beareth the authority or the mark of somebody else — hallelujah. 60 And that is why when people say they are waiting on the mark of the beast to come, I am like — thou art sitting there under it; thou dost not have to agree with me, but thou hadst better agree with this book; God never authorized the first day of the week; he never authorized the sixth day of the week. 61 He said, on the seventh day thou shalt come into my presence — that was it; now, I will clarify that for my dear people that are freaking out right now; no, there is nothing wrong with having church seven days a week if thou wantest to; but when thou choosest one day to go and worship and it is not the Sabbath day, that is the mark of the beast. 62 Brothers and sisters, hear me — we are being called into seven because the seven thunders cannot release their message if they are not a people of seven — hallelujah; why? Seven thunders — the complete voice or the complete message; it gathereth together all of the previous messages and tieth up them loose ends — amen. 63 Everything that never quite made sense to thee, but thou believedst it anyway — when thou hearest the seventh message, it is going to tie A to B and B to C; and before thou knowest it, thou art going to have a perfect picture from beginning to end. 64 And I am telling thee, saints, I know of no other ministry in the world that is tying A to B and B to C and bringing forth an end-time message that revealeth Yeshua for who he is; all of these messages from the last six thousand years that we have been studying on Friday night — nobody before us had a complete message. 65 Watch this — the Waldensians did not have a complete message; oh no, they did not have the baptism of the Holy Ghost; they did not have the gifts of the spirit; I could go down the line; the Pentecostals did not have a complete message; oh no. 66 The Baptist, Assembly of God, Church of God — none of them have a complete message; they have got a good message, but it is not complete; any message that pointeth people to Messiah is a good message — yeah; but that doth not — look, I can point thee to the Froot Loops too. 67 But if I am in there cooking turkey, sausage, bacon, and turkey bacon, and grits and gravy, and buttermilk biscuits — I can point thee to the Froot Loops if thou wantest, but I am cooking a complete breakfast over here — hallelujah. 68 Every partial message was a fragment of truth; every piece of the mystery hath been scattered for six thousand years; the seven thunders will gather it all into one voice. 69 How did those fragments get scattered? Who preserved them through the centuries of dark? John, Ignatius, Papias, Polycarp, Audius, Ulfias, Peter Waldo, John Wycliffe, John Hus, Michael Servetus, Oswalt Glait, Andreas Fischer, the Nazarines, the Ebionites, the Audienses, the Waldensians, the Pasagini, the Apostolics. 70 Charles Taze Russell, Ellen White, E.W. Bullinger, Charles Parham, Agwaser, Herbert W. Armstrong, William Branham, Ruth Ward Heflin — all down through the ages they have held a piece of this truth — hallelujah, hallelujah, they all carried a piece of it. 71 Let me give thee an example; many of thee do not know Charles Parham; Charles Parham is the father of the Pentecostal movement; Charles Parham had a schoolhouse in Topeka, Kansas — it was called Stone's Folly, I believe. 72 Charles Parham told his students, I am going away on a mission trip, all the Bible school; and he told them, when I get back, I want thee to study the Bible while I am gone and tell me the initial evidence of the Holy Ghost. 73 Charles Parham came back from the mission trip and they met him at the door; a woman met him by the name of Agnes Osman; Sister Osman was praying; at that time there was no speaking in tongues as we know it today — there was sporadic through the centuries, but in other words, the church was not speaking in tongues. 74 And they met Charles Parham at the door and said, Brother Parham, we have experienced the Holy Ghost baptism; he said, how dost thou know? And there were several witnesses there that said, Sister Agnes Osman was praying and began to speak — no, no, no, be careful here — in a foreign language. 75 And Charles Parham — this is all documented, thou canst read every bit of this — Charles Parham called Sister Osman in because he was a studious man; he did not want to fall for just anything; he said, who heard thee? And she brought in the witnesses that heard her. 76 And one of the witnesses was a Chinese sister, and she confirmed that Agnes Osman spoke in the perfect Chinese language just like they did on the day of Pentecost; and so Charles Parham knew that they had been empowered to become missionaries supernaturally. 77 Go read it — do not ever take my word — go read it; thou wilt find out; I know the truth; and Charles Parham began telling everybody at the Bible college, thou art all going to become missionaries supernaturally just like they did in the upper room when they began to speak and everybody heard them in their own language. 78 That happened for Charles Parham; well, several years later, Brother Charles Parham made a trip to Azusa Street; he did not start Azusa Street; Brother Charles Seymour, a black brother, started Azusa Street; I know thou hast all heard of Azusa Street. 79 But there was a problem at Azusa Street — the problem was Charles Parham; he pulled up at Azusa Street and what they were doing did not sound nothing like what they was doing; him and Seymour tied up; literally, he stood up and told Seymour, this is wildfire, this is not what happened on the day of Pentecost. 80 Charles Parham, the father of Pentecost, and Seymour have a fight, a debate, and Brother Parham telleth him this is not what we are experiencing; we are experiencing other tongues in foreign languages supernaturally. 81 And brothers and sisters, I want thee to hear me — every move of God, the same thing happeneth; thou hast the real and then thou hast the other; and what beginneth to happen? We replace truth for emotions; and then what happeneth? We forget about truth and we do not care because we feel the presence of God. 82 I want thee to hear me and hear me well — if it is not in this book, if it is not written in this book, there is no authority for it; thy emotions do not count; and there is going to be a seventh angel message that cometh around and saith the way it is supposed to be — Charles Parham was one of those men. 83 He tried to keep order in the Pentecostal movement; and then as soon as that man was crucified — literally, thou knowest what they did to that man? They put a newspaper article — thou canst go read it — in the Houston Chronicle, calling him a homosexual; said they had caught him with another man; all lies. 84 Thou knowest why they needed to destroy his credibility? When they cannot destroy thy message, they will destroy thy credibility — amen; the point I am making is every man in our past hath had a measure of truth. 85 Now here is the flip side of that — art thou ready? Charles Parham had it right; now thou seest things go wild on the other side; and here cometh the Messianics preaching against speaking in tongues; thou seest — they all make the same mistake; nobody tieth it together. 86 At FHMI, we believe in speaking in an unknown language; we believe in speaking in foreign tongues; we believe in the book the way it is written, and no amount of study will take that away from who we are; but we are going to keep it right. 87 For example, if thou interrupt the service here speaking in tongues, thou hadst better be ready to interpret — amen; oh no, we do not do the everybody speak in tongues and nobody interpret — it is not allowed; now, in thy own prayer time at the altar, in thy own worship time, have at it; thou art not interrupting the service, thou art not interrupting the flow — speak until the tongue falleth out. 88 I do; I speak in tongues more than all of thee, thou seest; however, I also know that — the Bible said, let all things be done in decent order; if thou hast got to speak in tongues, stand up and do it — yes, sir; but it is thy duty not to wait for an interpreter. 89 The Bible said, if a man speaketh in tongues, let him pray that he might interpret; thou seest, this is called order; and at the same time, not taking away the power of God and the move of the spirit; thou dost not have to throw the baby out with the bathwater; thou canst have it all in the last seven thunder message. 90 Thou art going to get it all, but thou art going to get it in order — amen, hallelujah; my Bible saith — I do not have no other authority to go by — my Bible saith, repent and be baptized in the name of Yeshua the Messiah and thou shalt receive the Holy Ghost. 91 My Bible saith that — I believe when we put thee in the water and we do it in his name, that thou receivest the Holy Ghost; why? Because the Bible said so; somebody hath got to pull it all together; the church is in a mess; thou knowest why? Because they take a fragment of a message. 92 Honey, I thank God for the fragment my grandmother gave me; I would not trade it for anything in the world; but I cannot believe that her fragment is all there is; there hath got to be a fragment for my generation; there hath got to be a fragment for thy generation; there hath got to be a complete message come forth in the last days. 93 God is raising up — I believe Charles Parham was an apostle; I believe Ellen White; I believe Charles Russell; yes, thou canst get mad at me all thou wantest to; didst not he start Jehovah's Witnesses? He sure did; and they have got ten times more truth than most Christians I know of. 94 If they was not so dead, I might go have church with them, but I just cannot stay awake that long; somebody hath got to be jumping or something for me; Charles Russell, the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses, he brought a message to the world about the coming kingdom of God. 95 Thou seest — but then they messed it all up; how? They got Yeshua wrong; Herbert Armstrong got Yeshua wrong; folks I grew up with got Yeshua wrong — come on now; but thou knowest what? John said there is going to be a perfect message in the end time; he promised it right before the coming of the Lord; somebody is going to tie them all together. 96 Somebody is not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater; somebody is going to put it all together; that is why — dost thou know? — that is why Sister Mandy Bunch — thou knowest, Mandy, I am calling on her because her and Sister Kirk, they fooled around with these Messianic groups. 97 Thou knowest, that is why Messianics cannot figure me out; I am not throwing the baby out with the bathwater — amen; well, he keepeth the Sabbath, he keepeth the holy days, he is on the calendar, but my God, he acteth like a Pentecostal; dost thou not understand? That is part of the message. 98 Thou hast got to have the spirit, thou hast got to have the power, or thou dost not have anything — thou hast got to have it all; and now I reverse that on my Pentecostal brothers — thou hast got to have Torah, thou hast got to have Shabbat, thou hast got to have holy days, thou hast got to have the commandments. 99 The Bible said in the last day the seven thunders was going to bring forth the Sabbath of the Seventh-day Adventists, the feast of the Armstrongites, the spirit of the Pentecostals, the prophetic of the Branhamites, the kingdom of the sonship message, the name out of the sacred name movement, the identity of the two houses, the glory of the Ruth Heflin movement. 100 Oh my God, somebody is going to bring it all into one message — come on, Elder; I look back at Sister Ruth now and I see how little truth they had, but they had the glory; but then I look over at people that have the truth, but they do not have no glory. 101 And so God said, I want thee to take a blanket, make a blanket, grab that Heflin fragment, grab that Armstrong fragment, grab that Parham fragment, grab those fragments of truth, and bring together an end-time message that will tie it all together. 102 I want to show thee how this worketh; let me show thee how this worketh; get ready for this; Charles Russell, Jehovah's Witnesses — nobody had kingdom truth more than him, him and Armstrong; but Russell, the Jehovah's Witnesses, have all that truth and cannot see the Sabbath day. 103 Ellen White — y'all know Ellen, dost thou not? Seventh-day Adventist Church; Sister Ellen White was a great woman of God; she had the Sabbath day, but not the feast days; Armstrong had the feast days, but dead as a doornail; no Holy Spirit; I mean, they would walk in with briefcases instead of the table, and that was it. 104 They heard a lot of truth, but they did not eat the pill; oh, and that is why the church is fragmented today; Parham had the spirit but no Torah; Branham had the prophetic but did not know the sacred name; E.W. Totzer had the presence of God but no kingdom message; Ruth Heflin had glory but no truth. 105 God rest their souls — I honor them all — yes, sir; without their fragments, we could not put this thing together — hallelujah; without those Baptist people teaching us to baptize by immersion, we could not put this thing together; each one brought a piece, but none had the seven; none had the seven, none had the whole. 106 But the Bible said when that seventh trumpet beginneth to sound — some preserve the Sabbath, some preserve the feast; let me give thee an example; one of our sisters in our church shared a video two days ago of a wonderful Torah teacher. 107 And I normally do not tell people what they can and cannot share; I do not care unless it is, thou knowest, well, but I would not have said anything, but she was an elder and she shared a video, and the video was wonderful; it was about — memory fails — but it was wonderful; what he was talking about was wonderful. 108 But I know the brother; some of the people have left here and joined up with him; I know the brother; great man, weareth a beard, good fellow, Messianic brethren — but believeth in incarnation, no move of the spirit; they call us the Kundalini bunch, whatever, thou knowest, whoever we are, the Kundalinis. 109 And I told the sister, I said, why would we step down to anything less than a seven? Hallelujah; I know many people that follow Paul's Sides, Ralph Sha — great brother; now, he is one of those that doth not believe in incarnation; great brother, but they would be scared to death in a service like this. 110 Why would thou go down to a six? Yahweh is bringing the whole thing together; and these places have no government — none; and okay, watch this; thou goest and watcheth them, fellas; they have no — I hope this chair holdeth up — they have no government; nobody knoweth who is in charge of anything. 111 There is no order; it is a Bible study where everybody shareth, and their words are as good as the other one, and we are all sharing; thou art sharing confusion; because everybody hath got an opinion, but everybody doth not have truth; there is no government; they are not building anything. 112 Yahweh said in this message, I will restore; and I have to give credit to where it is due — the government message came from Herbert Armstrong; the first time I heard it, I said, that is what is missing; there is no government in the church — none; because we all think we are equal; how art thou ever going to have a society if everybody is equal? 113 I mean, come on now; if I am equal to the police officer, who is going to patrol the streets? All right; thou canst not have equality in the kingdom of God; there must be government; and when Herbert Armstrong taught that, it got so deep in my spirit. 114 Let me let me tell thee why; and I am getting — I am going down a little rabbit trail here — I am going to show thee why this is important; right now, I have a good friend by the name of Chris Reid; say a good friend; he was a good friend; we do not really talk much anymore, but Brother Reed is a gifted man, a lot like Brother Branham was. 115 And I do not know if any of thee have got YouTube and thou seest what is going on right now, but they are eviscerating Brother Reed all over YouTube; now, I do not know the full story, and honestly, anyway, that is not the point; so I hear their side, and then Brother Reed cometh on YouTube and respondeth to them, and I hear his side. 116 And then I hear about Shawn Boltz and the Bethel movement getting caught telling people their addresses and their names; come to find out he was data mining off of Facebook; the way it worketh is thou registerest for a conference; guess what is on thy registration? Thy name and thy Facebook profile. 117 So before these people all showed up by the thousands, the accusation is — and I will make that plain — the accusation is that Brother Boltz and Brother Reed were checking people's Facebook profiles and data mining all of their information. 118 Now let me make something clear — I do not know if that is true; I am trying to make a point today; I will say I saw Brother Reid in many instances where I do not think he could have data mined that because we had meetings; he hath got a gift; so I do not know if people have gone too far; I do not know what is going on. 119 I do not know if there is pressure to keep prophesying; thou knowest, there is a real gift and then there is pressure to keep on; I do not know if that is what it is; but here is what I know — there is no place in the church to find the truth; none. 120 Joanie Lamb — when they crucified Joanie Lamb, accused her of hiding child predators — where is Joanie supposed to defend herself? The church hath no government; so what happeneth? We see these accusations on ministers and we have nowhere to clear their names or to prove the truth. 121 There is no — there is no government in the church, none; it is horrible what we are living in now, because the courtroom is now YouTube; now in the early church, the apostolic assembly, they had a court — that is right; they had elders at the gate, and their job was to judge these matters. 122 And the church did not judge those matters — they let the elders judge those matters; now watch this; but today we have no such thing; as a matter of fact, there is no place where Brother Chris Reed can go and say, here are my facts, here are their facts. 123 And there is no government that can write a letter and say, we have examined this, brother, and found these to be untrue; and then the doors of the church would open wide to him; there is no place to go; it is a travesty, it is a shame. 124 In my own life — y'all know what I go through on certain web pages — I have nowhere to go; nowhere; I went straight into the lion's den with eight of them in their house and said, ask me anything, here I am, where is this going? Nowhere; it is a shame that we do not have government in the church today. 125 It is a shame that we do not have twelve elders that thou canst bring these matters to, both sides, and hear the truth; so here is what we are stuck with — art thou ready? Facts; let me give thee an example. 126 And I am not trying to get political on the Sabbath, but let me give thee something; three million pages of the Epstein files were released yesterday; so far, we have nothing except somebody getting STDs; now, in the Epstein files, there is an accusation from Epstein against Bill Gates. 127 It saith that Bill Gates called Epstein looking for antibiotics to give his wife because some of the Russian girls he had slept with, he got diseases, and his wife caught it, and now he needeth to find medicine for his wife; that is so far the big bomb we have. 128 Now, here is the sad thing; Bill Gates and Melinda Gates have released a statement that there is no truth to that; that Epstein was mad at them because they took him off of a board that he was on; who dost thou believe? And now we are all stuck in la-la land. 129 There was an accusation came out on President Trump out of the files that he was auctioning off young girls at Mar-a-Lago, measuring their breast and their body parts, and whoever had the best measurements was getting the best price at the auction. 130 Now all the Democrats believed it; and I said to the Lord, I said, help me with this; and the Lord helped me; he said, guess who had those files first for four years. 131 But what they did not show — they showed one that was four sections; if thou wilt go one section over — because I found it — if thou goest one section over, the FBI records that they dismissed the witness because they found her to be uncredible. 132 How long do we have to do this? Nobody ever knoweth what to believe anymore; we need government; the church needeth government; we need order; and the seventh trumpet is going to bring it to the end-time church. 133 We are the only movement in the world with three hundred people strong that hath got more elders than we do members; why? Because order is everything; I would rather build elders first every day of the week. 134 Every trumpet sounded in part; so who is lying — Epstein or Gates? One of them is, one of them is lying; here is the problem — we cannot ask the dead man, we cannot put him on trial; now, I am not a Bill Gates fan, but what if the man is innocent? 135 I am not a Shawn Boltz fan in the charismatic move, but what if he is innocent? I do not know; and that is a shame that I cannot know; we need righteous judgment in the church; that is why in this ministry we are so strict on the protocol. 136 We have a protocol here; we go by the book; if thou hast a problem with somebody in this church, thou art not allowed to go to the pastor; thou art not allowed to go to an elder; thou art not allowed to go to nobody. 137 Because if thou doest, thou art going outside of the book; the Bible said if thou hast a problem with someone in the church, go to them; go straight to them, and thou offereth them peace — yes, sir; if that brother or sister will not hear thee, then thou goest and findest two or three witnesses that will verify that thou didst go to that person first. 138 What am I teaching today? Government; we have got to get back to a ministry of government and we have lost it; I will tell thee who hath it; dost thou know why — and I hate to say this part — dost thou know why the Catholic Church hath survived two thousand years? They have government. 139 Dost thou know why the Protestants are all divided? Because there is not nobody going to tell us what to do; we are our own pope; in the Catholic Church, they have courts — ecclesiastical courts; they have trials, and the entire church agreeth when they join that church to submit themselves to whatever the outcome of that. 140 Thou and I do the same thing; how many times hast thou heard a judge rule and thou knewest he ruled wrong? But as a society, what did we agree to do? Accept his judgment; I am talking about after all thy appeals are over — as a society, what if we said, no, I am not listening to that, no, he got that wrong? 141 No — we agreed as a citizen to submit to even wrong decisions; without it thou hast no government; thou hast Minnesota, no government; I do not know why I stopped here on this part, but it is the part nobody wanteth to hear about; it is the part that nobody wanteth government. 142 But when thou desirest it, thou art moving into that seventh trumpet message; because how — let me ask thee this — how do we find truth in today's world? Where is it? Where is it? Everybody hath got a set of facts. 143 I will give thee a perfect example; there are people that have facts on both sides of every issue; thou wilt never find two people arguing that do not have facts; Pilate said, what is truth? We must be a people that love truth; we do not condemn anyone without a trial; we do not assume without a trial. 144 We do not do it in the world or in the church; we do not do it; why? Because we are coming into the finishing message where God is restoring what the church is missing; and thou canst not come into that unless thou art willing to submit thyself to that. 145 Let me ask thee a question; I am just — I do not know — the Lord just will not let me leave; let me ask thee a question; how many of thee in this room have ever been to court? What happeneth when the man walketh in with one of these — not one of these, but a robe? 146 How many of thee know that man putteth his pants on just like thou doest? He useth the bathroom just like thou doest; and yet in the world, thou never hearest nobody say, I do not follow a man, I am not standing up; I bet thou wilt. 147 Sure wilt — or thou wilt be in contempt of court because thou art not standing up for a man; thou art standing up for a robe; thou art standing up for government; and so many of thee are so scared to be part of a cult. 148 The whole world hath convinced thee that anything with order, anything with authority, is a cult; no — it is called the house of Israel and it is a government of its own; and God is going to restore that. 149 I am going to try to close here in a moment; John chapter 5; and I thank God for Herbert Armstrong restoring the message of government; dost thou know why Herbert Armstrong affected more people than anyone about the Sabbath and the feast days? He had a government. 150 And thou knowest what? His magazine had more subscribers than Time magazine; he had a government; he affected planet Earth; if thou wantest to affect planet Earth, become part of a government, a structure. 151 John 5:28 — read, Elder — and I am almost done, saints — amen; do not be astonished at this; I know — hold on — I have got to correct something; the Lord is bothering me; I do not believe for one minute Brother Chris Reed did those things; I want everybody to hear me. 152 He is my brother and I love the man; I just think it is unfair; there is nowhere for him to prove whether he did or did not; and what happeneth is it destroyeth ministries; I will show thee; I promise thee there is a real — first time I walked in this church, I called people out left and right, told them everything about them. 153 I was not data mining; there was not even — well, there was Facebook then, but I was not data mining because I did not know nobody here; so Satan doeth this to destroy the real; so I do not want thee to ever believe anything unless there is a trial. 154 Now, if thou hast got a little discerner in thee, thou canst believe that — amen; but thou waitest for a trial; read for me John 5:28 through 29; Brother Reed, I love thee; if anybody getteth thee this message, and some might — we love thee; thou art our brother; we are praying for thee. 155 And it is not over — amen; if it is true or not, it is not over; it is not over; hallelujah; hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah; I have been at the bottom before — it is not over; I have been to the place where everybody turned against me — it is not over; hallelujah, hallelujah. 156 John 5:28-29 — amen; do not be astonished at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear his voice and will come forth; those who have practiced righteousness will be resurrected in order to live; and those who have practiced wickedness will be resurrected in order to be damned. 157 I want thee to hear what he said; the hour is coming when all that are in the graves will read his word — what? I need somebody to wake up; it did not say all will read — it said all will hear a voice; why? No resurrection, even the one thou hast had, can begin by reading. 158 The resurrection beginneth with a voice, and then that voice will get thee to read; come on now; the resurrection is always preceded by a voice. 159 Now many of thee were thinking about cemeteries — thou just missed it; there are many realms of death; the Bible said the world is dead in their sins; the Bible said, he that liveth in sin is dead while he liveth; Yeshua called the Pharisees whited sepulchers full of dead men's bones. 160 According to Yeshua, the grave he was talking about was religion — dead men's bones; and I want to ask thee a question today — bring that graphic up that I am calling for; what grave hast thou been in? There are Baptist graves and there are Methodist graves; there are Pentecostal graves and new age graves; anywhere that men have doctrine but they do not have life is a grave. 161 And the Bible said when this seventh trumpet beginneth to sound, the dead — those that have been in those graves of religion — will hear a voice and they will rise to follow the seven thunders; I declare to thee today, I blow the trumpet out of Zion, that if thou hast been ordained to hear the calling of God, thou art going to get up out of thy grave. 162 Out of the realm of death, and hear the voice, and thou shalt live — thou shalt live; let us all stand this morning; when thou hearest that sound, thou shalt live; hallelujah; oh, the sound of one of those thunders — thou shalt live; when thou hearest the sound of the seventh trumpet, thou shalt live; hallelujah, hallelujah.