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And we are live. Good evening, my friends. Fellow believers, I have a message for you tonight from the very, very bottom of my heart. Now, if you've seen the graphic, you know the title. And I did that for a purpose because it seems like lately, if you really want to get people's attention, talk about Joni Lamb.
Well, I am going to talk about Joni Lamb tonight, but I'm going to talk about a much bigger and broader subject. And I really pray, if you're just scrolling through, would you stop the scroll and just listen? I really believe I have a message for the body of Christ around the world. And it is urgent in my spirit.
Because I love the church. I'm a child of the church. The church raised me. I love everything about the church, even its flaws. However, the church is in danger. There is a disease growing within the church. It's multiplying. It's metastasizing. It is literally a deadly cancer. And if we do not get a hold of it, I don't know what the future of the church looks like.
Perhaps it looks like what Yeshua Jesus said in Matthew 24, "When I return, will I even find true faith on the earth?" The faith of the Christian church, the followers of Christ, is in jeopardy because not of enemies without. The gates of hell have never prevailed against the church, but because of enemies within.
And I really want to address this this situation with the Lamb family. If you're watching and you don't know what I'm talking about, Joni Lamb, Jonathan Lamb, Suzy Lamb, then this is probably not the video for you. Or you can go back and watch my previous videos where I explain all the details of the Lamb saga.
And it truly is a sad saga. But I wrote a few notes that I'm going to simply read to you today so that I can get through all of my thoughts and um share with you what I believe the Lord has given me. There is a set of commandments that was written by the very hand of God, Yahweh himself. 10. Now, I know we don't hear much about those commandments anymore, but the truth is, they're still very much in effect and required of all believers.
The fifth commandment, "Honor your father and your mother." That commandment doesn't say, "Honor them unless they did you wrong." "Honor them with this small caveat." There is no caveat in that commandment. It is a commandment from your God, the one that all of us claim to love, worship, and give our lives for.
And yet he teaches us in his commandments the value of submitting to authority. The first authority in our life is our mother and our father. Are there bad mothers and fathers? Absolutely. Do you think God didn't know there would be? But you see, the lesson he wanted you to learn was not whether your parents are good or bad, but what's inside of you.
And when you truly desire to please God, you will honor them. There was a man in the Bible by the name of Ham. He was one of Noah's sons. And sure enough, his leader, Noah, was not doing just right. As a matter of fact, the Bible alludes to the fact that he was naked in his tent uh from drinking. And the leader of the ministry, if you will, was not right.
Now, there was two other brothers that knew that a uh that love covers a multitude of sin. And that's what they did. They went in and covered that private family situation. Except for Ham. Ham felt the need to expose it. And we know how that story ends. Not because Noah was right or wrong, but because Ham was definitely wrong.
These commandments must be lived by. Now, I want to go into the Joni story a little bit and try to break down for you why we must we must as the body of Christ look at this all over again. There are so many podcasters. There are so many uh influencers out there today that have become judge and jury. And they have already decided who's innocent and who's guilty.
I'd like to remind you of a dark, dark period in American history. We're being told not to listen to Joni. And by the way, I'm not here to defend Joni, Jonathan, Suzy, or anyone. I'm here to defend the truth and the word of God. We're told to always believe the child. Now, that sounds good, doesn't it? We all want to believe children.
And we're told in this situation, "Well, it's all about the child." I disagree with you. I believe it's all about justice and truth. Must I remind you of people that died in our nation during something called the Salem witch trials? Do you know what that was? It was a moment in our history when the evidence seemed to be overwhelming that a child had been mistreated.
A witch spell cast upon the child. Do you know who started the Salem witch trials? A child. Why? Because Satan can speak through a donkey, a child, or anyone else to destroy the work of Yahweh. And do you know why these innocent people hang? I've been to the place where they hang innocently because everyone wanted to listen to the innocence of a child.
But my dear brother, my dear sister, in America and in the church, that's not how it works. We listen to what's called a preponderance of the evidence. We have what's referred to as two or three witnesses, which is a euphemism for a trial. And until such a time, anyone that renders a verdict is guilty of the same thing as they were in the Salem witch trials.
This disease in the body of Christ is worsening by the day. The advent of social media has been a beast that has given this disease more power. In days gone by, you could destroy a person over time. Now, you can destroy them in a day. I'm going to use the current event of the Joni Lamb situation to diagnose a much larger disease.
The truth is, this video is not about Joni and the Lamb family, although I will allude to them throughout this video. But actually, it's about a disease that you and I as fellow believers must determine who our allegiance is to. Is it to Joni Lamb? Is it to the Marcus family? Is it to Suzy and Jonathan? Is it to the little girl? Or is it to the word of Yahweh? That's a decision you will have to make.
What is your final authority? Where do you go to to solve all matters in your mind? For me, I go to the book. And that's what we're going to do today. Number one, Joni Lamb, the president of Daystar Television Network and the widow of Marcus Lamb, is currently the talk of the internet. In previous videos, I've told you the story of what is going on.
Therefore, I will will do that in this teaching today because most of you are aware of the story. If you're not, I'll put a link below this video where you can watch my previous videos giving you the details that we know of that story. From the onset, let me make it clear, abundantly clear, for all those that's having knee-jerk reactions right now, listen carefully.
I do not know who is guilty or innocent. Okay? I don't know. I don't know who's guilty and who's innocent. I don't know whether it's Joni that's innocent or Peter or Jonathan or Suzy or Queasy or who, I don't know who's innocent or who's guilty concerning concerning, listen carefully, allegations of spiritual abuse and physical abuse in that family.
Put that on the record. I don't know. I I've listened to the story and I've got major questions and holes that I see in the story, timelines that don't just don't make sense, but be that as it may, I've seen many times before things would go to court that I would see it one way and then when it was cross-examined, I'd be like, "Okay, that makes sense.
" So, I don't know, right, who's guilty or innocent, but look at me closely and listen to me closely and neither do you. Do you understand that? You have no idea. No podcaster you're going to watch knows who's innocent or who's guilty. If you're a podcaster or an influencer declaring that Joni is guilty because of leaked private family discussions, how would you like for some of your family discussions to be leaked? If you're saying she's guilty of spiritual abuse and of neglecting her granddaughter, that's big allegations,
by the way. If if you are declaring on YouTube that she is guilty of those two allegations, spiritual abuse and neglecting her granddaughter, even child abuse perhaps, if you are doing that, you have violated Now, here's what I do know. I don't know who's guilty or innocent, but I know you're guilty. If you have called her guilty or them guilty, you have violated the Torah and you have committed a crime called slander.
That's why all of you've got those little YouTube uh from the attorneys, that's why you've all got them. Oh, I know y'all are all going crazy because cease and desist letters were sent out. My dear friend, do you truly think if someone had something to hide, they're they're ready to take it to a court of law? Think hard about that.
Think hard about that. According to First Timothy chapter 5, not that the Bible matters to anybody, but I'll quote it just in case there's a few of you left in the world that it does matter to. First Timothy 5 and 19 through 22 says you are never to receive an accusation against an elder in the church, meaning leadership, without a trial.
So, let me ask you, have you violated the scripture? Have you received an accusation against Joni Lamb? By the way, let me back up and say this. Why am I defending Joni Lamb, which I'm not, but why does it sound like I am? Because she's the one being accused. Remember, she's not accusing. She didn't start this. She is the accused.
They are the accusers. So, automatically, both positions have been set now. And now the rule of law kicks in rather than the rule of emotions. And now, Joni Lamb, the law gives her the benefit of the doubt. The law gives her a presumption of innocence and what's so sad, the law of Yahweh does as well and nobody cares about that.
We don't care. Let's gnaw to death. Let's just And I would say this for anyone that was being accused. But according to First Timothy 5:19 through 22, you are not allowed to receive an accusation against the leader in the church without a trial. Without laying out all of the evidence to be cross-examined on both sides.
And at this point, my friend, that has not been done. So, any rendering of a verdict before then carries the spirit of the Salem witch trials and you're guilty if you have fallen into that trap. Repent. You can be forgiven for it and don't do it again. Go and sin no more. We must end this disease. Because there's not been a trial, you and I are clueless of the truth.
Can you admit to that? Can you? Can you admit I have no idea what the truth is? If you admit to that, then can you declare and I have no business rendering a verdict? And then can you confess if I have done that, Father, forgive me, for truly I have sinned. Three years ago, I made the exact same stand that I'm making right now for a minister in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
This minister was the talk of the internet. He was going through what Joni Lamb is going through now. He was being called a murderer. He was killing people. He was doing this. He was doing that. He was arrested. He had to preach two years in his church with an ankle monitor on and all over the inner world.
Yes, I know that's not a word. All over the inner world. Do you know who was destroying this preacher? Same people, the church, not the world, the church. I've looked through all of the podcasts. I've looked through all and you know what? The world's not even talking about this. It's the church destroying a lady that has given her life to the work that she felt called to do.
And our response is crucify her. They did the same thing to this minister in Baton Rouge. At that moment, something pushed me, just like it is today, to speak to the world. That was during the height of the presidential election and I went and I was the first podcaster with influence to publicly tell every Christian on my timeline that was destroying this young preacher.
I stood up. I didn't care. I said the same thing I'm saying right now. You're all bound by demonic spirits for attacking the innocent. That's correct. Uh the accused is innocent until proven guilty. You have no authority to guilt to guilt anyone. You don't have that authority. It rests within the assembly or the court of law.
I stood up to this minister's defense that everyone was against. They had all accused him of crimes putting people in danger, but something from somewhere pushed me to the microphone to say exactly what I'm saying right now, that you are wrong. Until you know all the facts, you are wrong. We stood for that minister and guess what happened? Three years later, the courts ruled that it was all fabrication.
They ruled in that man's um interest. But you know what? Everyone that was doing to him what people are doing to Joni now went dead silent. Not one of them have come back and said, "We were wrong." Not one I've watched I've waited. Because you know what? You don't have to. Not in the Christian church today. Because we don't know the word except for when our next blessing's coming.
Because we don't understand church order and church government. Because no one has taught us that, we become the Salem witch trials all over again. Today that brother is in line to get millions of dollars through our legal system because of false accusations. So those of you that have gotten cease and desist letters, listen to me carefully.
What you call exposing people is truly nothing else than you trying to get clicks. God's not called you to expose anyone. There is order and you're out of it. If you want to be a blessing to the body of Christ, you go on a camera and say don't know who's guilty, don't know who's innocent, bad situation, let's join in prayer so Satan will not get a foothold in the church and destroy.
Do you know what caused the downfall of two great ministers, one in New Orleans, one in Baton Rouge? Well, it's an old story, but I know what caused it and it all came from jealousy. It's the root of so many problems in the church. Everyone that is involved with trashing Joni Lamb, you're going to have egg on your face.
And then you'll disappear like a cockroach in the night. No, I didn't call you a cockroach. I said you'll disappear like a cockroach in the night. You had your moment to crucify. But will you show up for the resurrection? I doubt it. With all of that said, I've already said I don't know who's guilty of the allegations, but I'm here as an overseer in the church where I have influence, as a minister of the word of God, as as his servant to declare as guilty those of you that have made podcast and videos against the accused.
I do so not on my authority, but the authority of the word of Yahweh. I'm not going to read these verses, but I challenge you to read them. First Corinthians chapter 6, 1 through 6. The Bible that you swore your life to, that you said is the final authority. Is it truly? Because if it truly is, you'll never make this mistake again.
Because Paul, that great apostle of our faith, that man wrote in 1 Corinthians 6 and 1 through 6 and he was heartbroken at the Corinthian church. Same way I'm heartbroken today. Why was he heartbroken? Because they were bringing matters of the church before the unbelieving world. He was so heartbroken, he literally put it to their shame.
What were they doing? They were taking holy matters of the church, the ministry, and putting it before the world. They were going to courts and he wrote in those verses, he said, "How How can you do this? How can you go before unjust, unbelieving men and women and present your case?" He said, "Shame on you for not being able to internalize this, bring it into the church and let it be judged.
" Disclaimer. Listen carefully. Disclaimer. If it's a crime, if it's a crime, we're not talking about that, okay? No, we're not talking about what the Catholic church did to the children, molesting them. That is crimes. That goes straight to the law. But what I'm hearing about Joni Lamb and spiritual abuse is not a crime.
It It is not punishable by civil courts and therefore it must be judged by ecclesiastical ones. Paul forbids you and me to bring these matters before the world. Why? It harms the work of God. Joni Lamb is being massacred. Susie, Jonathan, whoever, all being massacred. Do you know why? Because no one is obeying 1 Corinthians 6 1 through 6.
It demands us not to bring these matters before the world. That includes social media. Do you know every time you put something out saying that Joni's guilty without a trial, do you know the world laughs at the church all over again? I love the church. We have got to stop. It's got to end the vitriol. Brothers and sisters, do you understand? And many don't, so I get it.
That when you open your eyes in the resurrection, that you've got to live with me for all eternity here on earth in the kingdom of God. Did you know that? So if you hate me now, or you hate Joni now, or you've got all this guilt in your heart, this hate in your heart, how in the name of all That's why the world laughs at us.
They're like, "Y'all don't even like each other now and you're talking about you're going to go to the kingdom of God for all eternity." It's a joke, beloved. We have to love our enemies right now. And we don't do it by uncovering them before the world. Anyone that does that is in violation and standing in contradiction to the clear commandments of God's holy word.
And you will never be blessed in doing so. And that's exactly what Susie and Jonathan Lamb has done. They took an internal matter that was being handled internally, whether they liked how it was being handled or not. It was an internal matter. While that matter was going on, the work of God with Daystar, to the best of their ability, was going forward.
Now, all one big distraction from the work of God. Satan is pleased. Did you help him? The body of Christ is fastening a worsening spiritual disease. The misuse of social media to air accusations, slander, and unresolved disputes within the church. While social media is wonderful for spreading the gospel, it's also become a tool for public judgment, gossip, and division among believers.
This trend is not only destructive, but it violates biblical principles. I want to ask you a question. Have you ever read the story of the children of Israel in the Old Testament and you wondered how they kept making the same mistake over and over again? I mean, you I have and I'm like, "My gosh, did they never learn?" That's my question to you today.
That's the title of this podcast. Do we ever learn? Just look at the Salem witch trials. When do we learn? Look at the Nazis and the Jews. When do we learn? When do we like, "No, I've been there, done that. I I bought the bag of chips. I know how this story ends." The Bible said, "Ever learning, but they're never coming to the knowledge of the truth.
" They are a foreshadow of us. Joni Lamb is now the subject of widespread controversy and I want to ask you a question, all of you, before you click off. What if she's innocent? What if? What will that make you when this is all over? Will you hide from what you've done? Will you come out and repent? Or will you just allow the work of God to be harmed as if you carry no blood on your hands? If she's innocent.
Now, what if she's guilty? What if? Then it will be found out and it will be dealt with by those that have the authority, which is not you, to prosecute, to terminate, to do whatever has to be done. So now the question comes up. How do we handle these matters? It's all in the Bible. Bible said Susie and Jonathan Lamb, if you have an aunt with your mother and your employer, the word of God says go to your mother privately.
God wanted everything done in private so the church wouldn't be harmed. Talk to her. Submit to your mother and your employer. Honor her leadership and the years that she put into Daystar. Or better yet, take her example. When your father, Jonathan, your father-in-law, Susie, when he made a moral failure that could have ended his legacy, it could have ended his career, it could have ended your family blessing.
He committed adultery on your mother. Go watch how she handled that. And learn from your mother. She sit there in private meetings going through private She never went one time and exposed her husband. She covered him and let all the truth come out and sit there on a set with looking embarrassed before the whole world.
Learn from your mother. She protected her husband and protected the work. The Bible says go to her privately. And then don't leak the audio of that private meeting before the world. Only I I Who does that? Private means private. Who does that? Save it for court if you must. But before the whole world? Unbelievers? Number two, if after that private meeting your mother will not hear you, the Bible then says for you and her to call on seasoned elders in God's church and call a meeting between those elders and let them judge the matter and then
you submit to their judgment. Joni, submit to their judgment. Just submit to their judgment. It's a beautiful thing. If that doesn't work and your mother, Joni, doesn't abide by the judgment of those elders, that's when you're to go to her local church, your local church, and bring this matter internally with the doors shut, the live streaming off, and let the church hear the matter, and let the church render a judgment.
Do you know the Bible says that the church is going to judge the angels? We're going to judge the whole world. We might want to start practicing judgment now. In that it begins in the house of Yahweh. Doesn't begin on social media. And then once the church renders a decision, that's it. It's done. It's over. It's just like a court of law.
Whether you agree with it, whether you don't, you abide by it. That's how you handle matters in the church. You don't destroy the house because you don't agree with the verdict. As I close, I want to say to you, Joni Lamb, Susie, Jonathan, your precious daughter, Pete, all involved, I'm believing for a miracle.
I'm praying for restoration of your family. It's not worth it. The work of God is more precious than you being proven wrong or right. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. First commandment. Let us all make sure that we're not that God that must be proven right by the court that has no power, public opinion.
The court of public opinion has no tools to determine guilt or innocence. None. I'm calling podcasters and all influencers to repent of slander and the harm that you have caused the church. Withdraw your public accusations, your videos, refrain from airing them any further. Unless you were on there declaring what the word of God, the voice of truth, and what you know to be the truth, which is the word, not the details of the allegations.
Withdraw those videos. Let's clean up the internet. Let's take the joy away from Satan of us destroying one another. Three, bring these matters into an ecclesiastical setting with people that truly love God, that believe in his word, not the world that mocks God and mocks the church, the court of public opinion.
There is a cure for this disease. Number one, commit every one of us to biblical principles. Handling disputes privately within the church. Number two, guard your words. Let Refuse all of us to participate in gossip or unsubstantiated accusations. If you don't know the whole story, then don't get involved in the story.
Three, seek unity within the body. Let the church be the beacon of truth and love, and not the Salem witch trials. Number four, and this is the big one. Trust in Yahweh's ability to bring justice without your help. Trust that. Trust that this is his church. And yes, it is filled with bad characters. Oh, the wonder of grace.
If God had to fill up his church with good people, the church would be empty. All of us that are trying to serve him are all flawed men. You don't have to look far to find mine. But at the end of the day, who do you trust to govern his church? You and your opinion and your podcast or him? If he has not the ability to set up kings and take them down, then he's not God.
And he never recruited you to do that. Many people tell me Many people tell me that we need to expose the darkness. The only problem is I can't find that scripture. I've looked. I have found where we are the light of the world and not to hide our light. But shining your light is far cry from pulling your sword and cutting off an ear.
Who do you truly think you are to expose? I mean, let's think about it. Who are you? Trust Yahweh to deal with his leaders. And get on with your life. Here's a fair question. Why am I involved in this? That's a great question. Why not just ignore it all? Why get into the fray? Why Why put yourself out there in case Joni's guilty? Why would you even do that? Well, I watched a movie last night called Bonhoeffer.
And if you've not seen it, I do highly recommend it. Bonhoeffer, before they hanged him, answered that question. They asked him why he got involved in Hitler and trying to stop that evil. And he said these words. He said, "Truth dies in the streets when it has no voice." My voice today is not to defend Joni Lamb, but the truth of the word of God.
The truth is we're killing our own. And here's the rest of that truth. Every one of you have got to live eternally with Joni Lamb in the kingdom of God. Is this how you want to die today? You could die right now. But you're done. And you go into that resurrection with that mind filled with slander and gossip. It don't have to be that way.
Obey the word. Receive not an accusation. Let the church handle these matters. And brothers and sisters, pray for Joni, Jonathan, Susie, the precious grandchild, and pray for Pete. Because you may not have ever considered this, but Pete could be innocent. Pete has a precious child. Pete has a wife that no one's thought about.
Because we just love destroying people with no evidence. So pray for Pete.