Who Created the Universe, the Father or the Son

Colossians 1 and verse 16 presents a strange problem for those of us that believe that Yahweh and yua or God and Jesus are not the exact same person it presents a problem because it seems to say that Jesus Christ or Yeshua hamashiach is the Creator and if indeed he is the creator then in the Oneness position is correct and Jesus is his own father so what I want to do is go through some of these scriptures and find out if the Oneness position is correct Let Me Explain real quick before I go further there are five prevailing views of the godhead number one is trinitarian the trinitarians believe that God is three persons the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit now they believe that each of those persons are three separate yet equal Divine persons in the godhead that's the trinitarian position now that position is held by most of your Christian Church churches Catholic Baptist Presbyterian a lot of your Pentecostals not the Oneness Pentecostals but your Churches of God Assemblies of God are trinitarian in their Doctrine then you have the opposite extreme which is the Oneness position the Oneness Church believes that Jesus is his own daddy that yua is Yahweh they believe that Jesus is the creator they believe that there's no difference in the father and the son they believe that there's no separating the father and the son the Oneness Church uh and I I grew up in that church they believe that Jesus it's Jesus only there is no father no holy spirit that it's all Jesus they do not pray to the father they pray to Jesus and that's the oness position then you have the binitarianism others in our ministers Fellowship support and that is the biblical Unitarian position where we believe that the father and the son we are anti- Trinity we do not believe in a third person but we do believe that the father and the son were separate however we differ from the batarians and the fact that we do not believe that both were at creation we believe that there was only one God at creation and that God's name is Yahweh or Jehovah many of you know it from the English version we prefer the Hebrew pronunciation of Yahweh so we believe that at creation there was only one Creator we do not believe that there was anybody that created with him and of course the first question you have is Genesis 1:26 where it says let let us make man in our image please go subscribe to my YouTube channel where I just did a video called Let us make man in our image and we will deal with that question for you and it will clear it up if you have not subscribe to our YouTube channel you're missing out on a blessing we have over 300 videos there of teaching you can simply go to YouTube and in the search bar CL click click u typee in first Harvest Ministries one more time go to the YouTube search bar and type in first Harvest Ministries now here is the problem for those of us that do believe in a Unitarian position of the godhead now that's not Oneness that's not Trinity that's not binitarianism but true Unitarian position if we believe that Yahweh is the Creator and not yua then we run in to several verses that present a problem with our Doctrine I'm going to read all four of those verses to you right now and every one of those verses seemed to say that in fact it was Jesus or Yeshua that created the heavens and the Earth it seems to say say that it was it was the son that created all of this the first scripture that glares in the face of a Unitarian such as myself is 1 Corinthians 8 and6 yet for us there is but one God the father from whom all things came and for whom we exist and there is but one Lord yua the Messiah through whom all things came and through whom we exist now this verse will make you pull your hair out if you don't have a spiritual mindset because 1 Corinthians 8:6 has two Clauses Clause a and Clause B and both of these Clauses say the exact opposite of one another they say the exact opposite of one another 1 Corinthians 8:6 says that Yahweh God the father created the heavens and the Earth and yet in the same verse it says that yua that everything was created through him and through him we exist so that verse right there you can take and interpret that verse either way and you would have biblical support for your thinking so our job today as true students of the word of God greetings we have 600 listeners right now every one of you that's listening if you would be so kind as to comment where you are viewing us from or listening to our program from that helps us to know where to focus our Facebook advertising so please let us know what area you're listening from now and if you don't mind if you know anybody that loves truth that might be confused about this subject between the difference between the father and the son and who created the world and who all of that then why don't you share this and invite them to come Colossians 1:16 presents us another problem for in him all things were created things in heaven and on Earth visible and invisible whether Thrones or Dominion or ruler or authority all things were created through him and for him this is talking about Yeshua bless you Sister Charlotte this is talking about yesu it says through him was everything created well what is it is it through the father or through the son who created heaven and earth these two verses so far give us the possibility that it was Jesus now let's go to Hebrews 1 and 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his son whom whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom he made the universe there you go another verse that is so confusing it says in one in in the first part that Yahweh created everything and yet then it comes and it says the son created everything let's go to one more confusing scripture while I've got you scratching your heads John 1 and verse 10 he was in the world and though the world was made through him the world did not recognize him now once again it tells us that the world was created through yua now I don't believe that and many of the ministers in our fellowship do not hold the traditional Oneness or trinitarian position we believe in one God one Creator and his name is Yahweh and that his son was the beginning of his spiritual family now listen but these four verses throw a monkey wrench in that belief because they seem to indicate yua created these things I want to explain what the problem is to you and I'm fixing to show you in the scriptures the balance of this but your English Bibles has been heniz let me explain what the word heniz means real quick your Bible is a Hebrew Bible it's a Hebrew Book it was written by Hebrews amen Charles God bless you thank you so much for that confirmation we're on the same page and I'm going to get there in just a moment so the Hebrews was the mindset from which your Bible came the Hebrew Israelites was who your Bible was a gift from now their thinking was Hebrew their speech was Hebrew but they were forced this Bible was forced into the Greek language which the Greeks were known as being heniz they were a pagan group of people they thought like pagans they their their word logos is a pagan word there that's why when you read John 1:1 and you see the word Lo that is not the word that was from the Hebrew mindset the Hebrew mindset would have been Darbar which had to be translated into Greek as uh uh logos but very careful you must understand this your English Bible is a heniz version of the original Hebrew mindset and that is a fact that none of my enemies or none of my friends can change your Bible was written by Hebrews but it had to be translated into the Greek language now with that said in that translation many Pagan thoughts found their way into the scriptures that you hold in your hand I don't care if you like it or not it's the truth and if you just go do your your research instead of being a blind sheep following the blind you will find out I'll give you a perfect example do you know that Matthew 28:19 that says to baptize in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost do you know that Scholars agree that this was added by the Pagan translators do you not understand that the verse in the New Testament that says there are three that bear record in heaven the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit do you know go read that was added in the Vulgate that was added by Latin translators it is not in the Original Scriptures and I'm so sorry to burst your bubble about your Queen James Bible but the fact of the matter is you are commanded by God to study to show your s approved you folks that go to church and lift up your hands in the praise and worship and you sit there and you listen to the preacher and you go home and live the rest of your week for yourself you are not worthy of the calling wherein you have been called to you are an Israelite you are to be like the bereans that study this word night and day quit studying the Kardashians quit studying your problems and get in the word of God and find truth because the day is upon us brothers and sisters where truth will be required of us if you're going to enter into the kingdom of Yahweh if you're going to be a governor in this Kingdom if you're going to be a ruler in this Kingdom that is coming it is not here yet I'm sorry to tell my Dominion now preachers but it is not here yet we must we must find out how to get past the heniz scriptures that we have been handed so with that said I want you to notice the four scriptures we just read that seems to say that Jesus created everything notice this that in most every verse it says through whom all things came and that the world was created through him that word through that word through that word through is a very hellenized mistranslation in all four verses we see that the world was made through yua through him that the Universe was created but that is false it is not through yua that these things were done but rather there's another word there that I'm fixing to teach you that should have been put into your translations now the Bible tells us plainly that in Hebrews 1 and2 that yua is the heir of all things he has been appointed heir of the universe and then that would totally contradict the fact that he created the universe how can you be Heir and the appointer at the same time you cannot there is no reason to call yua the heir of all things if yah if yua created all things all it takes is a half of a brain just not even a half a quarter of a brain to to to just not even a quarter H just a tenth of a brain to understand that there's no need for yua to be the heir of all things if yah if yosua created all things I'm going to tell you sometimes I wonder how the church got so dumb how did we allow ourselves to be so dumbed down brothers and sisters there's so many viewers out there and I apologize that I can't greet each one of you but I must get through this lesson please share it right now people need to hear this truth please comment your location now let's go and see what the Bible actually says and it says these words let's go to Isaiah 4424 write these scriptures down I've got to run through them I don't have time to wait Isaiah 44 and 24 this is what Yahweh says your Redeemer who formed you in the womb I am Yahweh the maker of all things who stretches out the heavens who spreads out the Earth by myself now this cannot be because if there is a trinity as the trinitarians believe or if it's Oneness as the Oneness believe or if it's batarian as they believe then you've got you've got this you this Bible is a mess if you believe all of that because if you believe that Jesus created it all then you've got to believe that Jesus is the father because then you've got the f look I've gone through so many scriptures right now to prove to you who created heaven and earth now we read the first four verses that contradict my Unitarian position the first four verses uh that we read from the New Testament seems to say that Jesus yua created the Heaven and the Earth that it was created through him and by him and for him but yet he's the heir of all things you cannot be an heir if you created it it can't be both ways so now Isaiah says that Yahweh the father created all things now let's go to Isaiah 42 and5 this is what Yahweh says he who created the heavens and stretched them out who spread out the Earth and all that comes out of it who gives breath to its people and Life to those that walk on it Isaiah 42 says that Yahweh created the heavens in the earth and yet we read in Colossians 1:16 that Yu everything was created through yua First Corinthians tells us that everything was created through yua and yet Isaiah is telling us everything is created through Yahweh so you've either got to be traditional Oneness or you've got to understand what I'm fixing to teach you in just a moment how these new testament scriptures are mated when you see what I'm fixing to show you when you get it your light is going to flip on and you're going to have a holy ghost spell Isaiah 42 and8 I am Yahweh that is my name I will not give my glory as Creator to any other I am Yahweh I am Yahweh I will not give my glory to any other and that is exactly what we have done all of our life we have given the glory of the Creator to the son when the son himself told us my father is greater than I am when the son told us that all glory should go to his father and yet we in the traditional Oneness church have given no glory to the father and we sing a song that says let me tell you who Jesus is he's the father listen I want to explain something this is more scary than you realize this is idolatry and somebody It Better Sound the Alarm somebody needs to teach truth we must give glory to the father now is it wrong to worship the son is it wrong to give glory to the son no it's not go watch my video on YouTube if you're not subscribed to that channel you are missing out on that channel I've got a lesson entitled who do we worship Yahweh or yesu that will perfectly make it plain to you that as long as you give honor to him as the son as long as you give honor to him as the elder brother as long as you reverence him for who he is and not as the Creator you're okay but when it comes to Creation Glory Yahweh says I give my glory to nobody else as Creator you see there is two Realms the creation is yahweh's but the governing of that creation has been given to the sun that's why the son is king that's why the son is king of kings and Lord of lords he has governmental Glory Yahweh has creation Glory and that's why it is so dangerous to give his glory to anyone else yet the verses we read in the New Testament seemed to say that yua created everything we're going to get to the answer for you in just a moment Isaiah 45 and5 I am Yahweh there is no other apart from me there is no other I form the light and create darkness and then let's skip down to verse 12 it is I who made the Earth how much simpler do you have to get folks you don't need a big brain to figure this out it is I who made the Earth and created mankind upon it my own hands stretched out the heavens now I encourage you to go to YouTube and watch the video we did day before yesterday and that video was entitled if is Yahweh invisible and he is not invisible you need to watch that please I beg you go subscribe today now listen my own hand stretched out the heavens I put the stars in their place so I'm asking every one of you if Yahweh says he did this but yet the New Testament writer said that yua did this then no wonder you would have to believe in Oneness teaching because that's the only way you could line this up unless you understand what we're about to teach you Isaiah 46 and five to whom will you compare me or count me equal to whom will you liken me that we may be compared remember this he says fix it in your mind I am Yahweh there is no other I am Yahweh there is none like me I make known the end from the beginning from ancient times what is still to come my purpose will stand I will do amen that's correct sister Regina Hayes he came in his father's Authority or his father's name amen now let's continue to read this uh Isaiah 406 and then we're going to uh well we'll just end that now so where does the problem come in let me explain to you right now how you get a different story in the Old Testament and the New Testament again your new testament scriptures have been heniz they've been translated by Pagan Minds Pagan men they've been translated by Pagan thinkers and this is the case when you get to the word through in the New Testament now the Bible says that through yua all things were created well we can't have it both ways folks you get you either got one or the other and don't come to me talking about it's a great mystery there is no mystery to the children of Yahweh the Bible said it's the father's good pleasure to reveal the secrets to his children let me tell you who it's a mystery to this Bible is not for the world it's a mystery for example if I go into a Chinese family right now I'm not going to understand anything I see or hear in a Chinese family because that's not my family it's going to be foreign to me it's not going to make sense but if I was born into a Chinese family I'll begin to understand immediately what they're saying I'll begin to understand immediately once you're truly begotten into the family of Yahweh you will begin to understand that there is no mysteries in God some folks said his ways are higher than our ways you better go read that verse again it says in the next part of that verse but he has given us the mind of the spirit to understand his ways there is nothing that Yahweh is hiding from his children there is nothing there's there's no secret that he's keeping from you he keeps it from the world he keeps it from the religious but he reveals it to babies Hallelujah and every one of you are babies growing up in the womb of Mama church right now you're growing waiting to be born again waiting to be manifested as sons of Yahweh you are not manifested yet please go to YouTube and please watch our video on born again or go to our website first harvest church.org download our booklet that we wrote on the Born Again experience nobody listening to me right now not one of you is born again you are are begotten again you are waiting for your birth hallelujah oh oh my God I could preach right here but I'm getting off of my subject you need to understand these things and you can understand these things you need a spiritual father see I I was talking to someone this morning that's drifting and I told him until you understand who your spiritual father is you'll always be a spiritual bastard never knowing where home is why because you've got to find that man of Yahweh that is bringing forth unadulterated truth you know it's truth the man may not be perfect the man may be imperfect but if his message is perfect you need to get behind it you need to support it you need to become a part of it why because we are moving together into the Glorious Realms of our father now why do we have this problem let me slow down and teach you now in the New Testament where you see the word that the world was created by or through yua that is a Mis transation let me show you what the word is it's the Greek word Dia d a now go to your Greek Lexicon and look up DIA it's Greek number 1223 the word Dia means because of or on account of or for the sake of Hallelujah here's what your scriptures that I read to you from the New Testament should say that the world was created not by yua or through Yu but because of on the account of oh hallelujah hallelujah see everything was created with a family in mind and yua is the beginning of the creation of that family oh Hallelujah he's the elder brother you can't start a family until you have the first child the first son you can't start a family until you start with a seed of sperm and yua was the seed son and everything was created because of or for the sake of or on the account of yua not by him not through him but because of him hallelujah thank God for truth today thank God that my eyes have been open I thank God that I can see I thank God that I can understand who my father is and who my elder brother is so that I might not give yahweh's glory to any other so that I might not be an idolator that turns a man into Yahweh that gives this glory to any other Hallelujah so when you understand that the word b and through should have been translated on the account of then you ask the question why did the translators use the word through or by because if you're a trinitarian translator and you believe that Jesus is the second God or the second person of the godhead and you believe he's equal with the father then it would make perfect sense to your mind that he created the earth and the heavens so when you're translating the word Dia which should be because of or on the account of and yes one option is through or by then you're going to choose the word that fits your doctrine that fits your thinking but brothers and sisters in all the other places where Dia is used in the Scripture it says because of or on the account of but your hellenized Bible says through instead of because of Hallelujah but you see we know from Daniel chapter 7 that yua the first born of the Dead comes before Yahweh the Ancient of Days in Daniel 7 at the End of the Age of Pisces at the beginning of Aquarius after fulfilling his role as Leo the Lion the Conquering lion it is then in Daniel chap 7 that yua is given his inh inheritance brothers and sisters he did not create the universe it was created by Yahweh as an inheritance to give to yua in closing I want to make it plain if I can please hear me right now A Father's greatest joy a father's greatest pleasure is to leave something for his sons to give them their place in the family in Daniel chapter 7 we see that yua comes before Yahweh and is given his inheritance he has given his inheritance why because the whole universe was created to give to yua so that yua might have something to give his brothers and sisters you and I will rule this universe we will rule this planet we will rule the whole earth and our inheritance our inheritance our inheritance is the universe it was created because of us you know it would be like if I said the reason I started a family business is for my sons for my children that they might I would take pride in watching them govern my business run my business Yahweh created all things because of you because of yua because of his family that would be created I say to every one of you today do not give thank you sister Regina thank you brother Ricky God bless every one of you please I beg you I'm done I'm closing but now go back and read those scriptures and take the word by and through out and change it to what Dia means because of and on the account of and everything will begin to make sense to you I pray that this has helped you to understand this seeming contradiction there is one God one God his name is Yahweh and he has one son and that son is yua and now Yahweh has many children that are waiting in the wombs of the earth called the tombs they're waiting to be born they're waiting to be resurrected that they too might be joint heirs with yua yeshua's Heir is the universe and we are joint hirs with him so long as we abide in him and his word abides in us we are the Elohim I'm Shane Von with first Harvest Ministries please share this teaching ing please like it comment on it and then if you would go to our YouTube channel And subscribe and visit our website to claim your free book today that's first harvest church.org May Yahweh keep and bless every one of you