Back to search

Shane Vaughn Teaches from Biltmore Estate "The Pre-Existence Of Christ"

FHMI-0280Shane Vaughn2020-07-29Sermon Transcript

N/A

  • (primary) John 1:1
  • (secondary) Genesis 3:15
  • (secondary) Genesis 1:1
  • (secondary) Genesis 3:15
  • (secondary) John 1:14
  • (secondary) Psalm 33:6
  • (secondary) Psalm 33:6
  • (secondary) John 1:1
  • (secondary) John 1:1
  • (secondary) John 1:14
  • (secondary) Genesis 1
  • (secondary) Genesis 1:1
  • (secondary) Genesis 1:3
  • (secondary) Genesis 1:1
  • (secondary) Genesis 1:3

Transcript

No exact match for "three angels message" in this transcript. This result may have matched scripture references, topics, or other metadata—check sections above.

welcome to the most beautiful home in America I would say the whole world but definitely in the United States of America this is the world famous built Mo estate I have longed to visit it for a long time and finally I was blessed by God to be able to bring my beloved bride to spend a magical day a wonderful day here on the grounds of this palacial estate you can see the video behind me as it brings you through every room if you've never been I want to encourage you to put it on your bucket list but don't worry if you can never go you're going to uh be able to take a glimpse into some of the photographs that we took all day long for those of you that don't know I love photography so while I'm giving this a little lesson today it won't be very long about 15 minutes I'm going to share with you our day at the world famous builtmore estate and I pray that you're blessed and that one day you're able to go as I walk through room by room there are over 45 rooms 65 bathrooms and I believe over 60 fireplaces in this one home three levels High by by the time we were through walking this home with no air conditioner but but they have fans so it was fine it was quite a journey and then the gardens I'm going to share with you some of the pictures of the gardens which are just as beautiful and ornate and out of this world uh as the home itself my wife and I when we were walking around the grounds we just kept saying to ourself the Millennium rain uh it there's just it it you got to go and if you don't go enjoy the pictures while I was standing there learning the history of builtmore estate um built by Mr Vanderbilt who is um third or fourth generation of the Vanderbilt family the wealthy icons from New York Mr Vanderbilt built this home for $6 million today that would equate to over $1.6 billion this home today would be over $1.6 billion probably more than that to build it so he was a wealthy man they were tycoons of the railroads when it first started and built a mass Fortune they actually had more money than the United State Treasury some interesting fact we learned and I was interested in the architecture as you can tell it's palatial it is beyond description it truly is and uh as my wife and I escaped from the world that day and walked those grounds of course my mind is a theological mind I have spent my life studying the word of God and trying to understand the God we serve even more and more so as the tour guide was telling us what year this home was built this little voice just came inside of my head and it's where I get most of my lessons and doctrines and studies from as long as it lines up with the word of God but when they told me the year that this home was built something came that always comes and said to me it existed long before that date and I began to think about this building as I looked upon its U decorations and every detail so carved out I just began to think about this home existed long before it was built it took six years to build this home 6 years of men and women working day and night around the clock to build this palacial Palace six long years and yet I kept hearing this voice say but it existed long before that and in fact it did this home that you're looking at behind me had a pre-existence if you will allow me to use that term and in this lesson you guessed it we're going to talk about the pre pre existence of Jesus Christ yua and we're going to parallel his preexistence with this home's pre-existence and I believe I'll be able to make it plain for you in just a matter of minutes now this home was created in physical form to where the human eye could behold it as we're doing right now we could see it but for us to see this home it had to be manifested to us in the physical visible realm now before the first Hammer was ever drawn before the first layer of foundation was ever laid this house already existed where did it exist well before the Hammers were drawn it existed existed on a set of blueprints but this house existed even before the blueprints where in the mind of a man by the name of builtmore builtmore was sitting somewhere one day when an idea struck his mind an idea to build the largest home in America and in his mind he probably saw every beam in every room and he be to allow those thoughts to build that home in his mind he was alone late at night his wife was probably asleep beside him children was asleep but in his mind he was building in his mind he saw the grandure he saw every detail and those thoughts began to formulate a plan I'd like for you to remember that word plan if you will it's going to be very important in this teaching as that house began to come from thoughts abstract thoughts into a more formulated plan that home had been walked through so many times before the hammer was ever drawn by a man named builtmore he visited every restroom he saw every the library he saw the kitchen he saw the Grand Banquet Hall which is so Grand but he had been there before he had been there before I ever walked through it he had been there before the Carpenters ever built it why because builtmore was created in the image of God and God is a Creator and human beings are the only creatures on the planet in the universe with the power of creation there's not an animal in this world that could have created builtmore there's not an animal in this world that could have painted one van go painting there's not an animal in this world that could create as the sons of God are able to do and how do we create exactly the way that our father creates it all begins with a thought thought and then that thought becomes a reasoning that reasoning meanders its way out into a plan and then something else has to happen to get the plan into manifestation so that the world can see the plan what is that next step the next step is that thought is dead it will never go past the thought realm until it is spoken it must be spoken do you know what a word is a word is a thought manifested or a thought expressed so for the thoughts of Yahweh the almighty God did you know that the word Yahweh means the self exist in one now for those of you that's watching you may not know the name Yahweh that is the god that you claim to serve he's the creator of the universe there's no other besides him he is God and God Alone he is the creator that Creator existed in eternity past alone as a matter of fact in the book of Isaiah Yahweh tells us that at cre there was no one there beside him no one that he alone stretched forth the heavens that he alone laid the foundations of the earth no one was with him and yet most Christians believe in either trinitarianism or modalism those are the two main thoughts and trinitarianism gives you three parts hearts of one God and they were all there at creation supposedly Jesus the son of God yua was there the Holy Spirit was there and the father was there and yet the father calls that a lie the father says I alone stretched forth the heavens but do you know that before he stretched forth the heavens they only existed in his thoughts now one day the thoughts of God were spoken the Bible says in the beginning there was a word that word had to be spoken do you know when the word was spoken Genesis 3:15 and then Genesis 1:1 Genesis 1:1 God said let there be he spoke forth what he had been thinking and creation began that's why in your own life you may have business ideas you may have things that come to your mind and they die in there but sometimes you get something and you decide to speak it you decide to stir the waters by declaring what you're believing and what you're thinking and all of a sudden the very action of your speaking begins to cause Rumblings begins to cause phone calls business begins to transpire and before you know it your thought or your plan has been revealed for everyone else to see beside you this is what happened in the beginning with the so-called pre-existence of Jesus Christ Our Father in Heaven thought about everything he saw everything he saw the he saw the creation but he also saw the crucifixion of the Son of God to redeem his creation you can read in the Book of Revelation the Bible tells us that yua Jesus was crucified before God ever created the world how could this be because he was as good as crucified when God thought it and when God spoke it when did God speak the creation of Yeshua and when did he speak the creation of the crucifixion in Genesis 3:15 he spoke and declared what he had been thinking he said that a seed would come forth that the woman would have a child and he tells what that child's going was going to do do you believe that he had not already planned all of that out in his mind of course he had now this is why we must understand this this subject because when we get to John 1 and verse 1 and verse 14 we seem to find scriptures that tells us that Jesus Christ yua pre-existed before he was born we know this cannot be the case because the Book of Revelation tells us that Yeshua was the beginning of the creation of God or of Elohim which is the family of God of which yua is the first of that family the firstborn son the only begotten son he is the head of that Elohim so he would be the beginning of this new creation the one new man with that said what does it mean when it tells us in the beginning was the word to understand this more clearly we've got to know that there are three words in your Bible that are translated into the English word word w r d comes from three different biblical words please don't get lost please stay with me three words debar I'm going to put that on the screen d a b a r logos l o g oos and Rama r h e m a now all three of these words when they found their way into the English version of the Bible none of those words were given different English words they were all translated as word and from that mistake comes great great great misunderstanding about the pre-existence of Christ number one I'm going to read to you from the uh uh ban encyclopedia we're going to talk about the first word darar d a b a r it's a Hebrew word and it simply means the plan now before we say it simply means the plan we need to explain something what is a plan it's the totality of your thoughts on a certain subject you can't have a plan without thoughts without saying those thoughts so when you collect the totality of your thoughts together and you collect the totality and you speak them and you put them into a blueprint you now have a plan the Hebrew word debar denotes the totality of your reasoning or your thinking which formulates into a plan it it is translated as word talk or thing the sepu get which is the oldest translation of the Hebrew Bible into Greek uses the terms Rama and logos as the equivalent to the Hebrew word debar so when the helenistic Greeks were translating when the Seagate was created and brought these Hebrew words into the Greek mindset so that the Greeks could understand it because that was the language of the empire of that day there had to they had to find a word that equated with debar bar means the totality of thought the reasoning the thing that is spoken there was only two Greek words that lined up closely to dubar and those words were Rama and logos so in your Bible when you're studying in the New Testament and you find the word word you're going to find the word logos or Rama but if you go to the Old Testament you find the word word uh and you can find that in U uh psalm psms 33 and: 6 it says uh by Thy word uh were the heavens made when you see that word word you're going to find debar so in other words by thy plan were the heavens made we know what darar means we're not ignorant of its meaning the Bible says in Psalms I want you to read that now go turn in your Bibles read Psalms 33 and 6 by thy r d a b a r that's the Hebrew word in the uh inspired text by your plan were the heavens made okay we now know by inspiration that the heavens and the Earth were created according to the plan of God yet when we get to John 1 in verse one it seems to say in the Christian mind that the heavens were created did by Jesus Christ we cannot have it both ways and the word of God never contradicts itself David says that the heavens were created by the plan of God John 1:1 says in the beginning was the word well we see the word word and we look up in our concordance and we find Logos which seems to indicate some mystical mysterious thing uh that relates to Christ which which is in fact not the case we must go back to the Hebrew mindset and understand that John chose the closest word in Greek they could find for debar so we already know the world was created by the plan so in John 1 And1 and the beginning was the plan of God and that plan belonged to God we know in Isaiah he says no one was there besides me I was in the beginning now there are several Beginnings in the word of God Genesis 1 and3 is a total different beginning than Genesis 1 And1 don't have time to teach that now but the point is before anything existed Yahweh existed and he created everything including yua by his plan and this plan was God's plan in John 1:1 in the beginning was the word the word was with God the Word was God we know it so well but truthfully the best interpretation would be in the beginning what's the plan brother vanon how can you say that so dogmatically because Psalms 33 gives me inspired evidence that I'm using the right word because it says by your plan were the heavens created not by a man not by anyone beside you but according to your plan so when you get to John 1 And1 if you'll change that word English word word to plan I promise you the entire teaching on the pre-existence of a man called Jesus disappears before your watching eyes in the beginning there was a plan the totality of yahweh's thoughts where Jesus was already crucified before he was ever born that word that plan belonged to Yahweh that plan was the inspired plan of Yahweh it was divine now we go on to see as we read through that chapter how by that plan were the worlds created and that nothing was the problem is the English translators used a pronoun for the word logos and that pronoun is him what a gross mistranslation and therefore lends to the teaching of the pre-existence of Christ the word the reason they use a male pronoun him is because the verbage that is used logos is a masculine noun I don't have time to teach on language here but I'll try to simplify with these explanations if you go to Spain or Mexico they don't have words like we have all of their words words fit into one of three categories masculine feminine or neutral if a word ends with an O you can pretty much know that's a masculine word if it ends with an a you can pretty much know that's a feminine word there are neutral words that should be referred to neutrally and therefore logos is referred correctly so according to translation rules as him when it should be it because logos is not a man logos is a plan and it is neutral but the next few verses says nothing was created that was not created by Him that's where the error comes into our Doctrine because Psalms tells us and Yahweh tells us in Isaiah that there was no one there besides him that created the heavens and the Earth so in the beginning was the plan that is a neutral word but yet your Bible will call it a hymn incorrectly so as we read through all of this we see what was created and that the light of the world then we get to verse 14 and it tells us in the fullness of time that that plan which included yua Jesus in it even his crucifixion his resurrection his second coming all is in the plan in the fullness of time that debar plan that logos that totality of the plan was born in a human body so that we could be hold it and the word or the plan was manifested before for our very eyes just like this building it always existed way before it existed it existed pre-existed as a plan but somewhere on December the 24th is when they open this home that is when the plan we beheld its Glory that's when we looked upon it with an awe and a Wonder but builtmore had looked upon it with an awe and a Wonder way before we did he saw it in the midnight hours Yahweh saw his plan but there came a day when that plan was revealed the word manifested is better translated revealed that plan that was in the mind of God hidden even from Satan because if the princes of this world had known the plans of God they wouldn't have crucified J yesu see it was hidden it was the secret knowledge the kosis of God himself the almighty Yahweh there are many scriptures that seem to indicate that yua pre-existed his birth and I'll just throw two of them out there one is who was the fourth man in the fire in the Old Testament if it wasn't yua or better yet who was in The Burning Bush if it wasn't yua here's what I'm going to do I created a 45 minute lesson on who all of those appearances were if you're watching by YouTube now this won't work on Facebook or Vimeo or anywhere else but if you're watching on YouTube there's going to be a card slide across the screen right there I'm going to link to that teaching called the angel of Yahweh you need to watch it it will help clear many of these things up there's another verse where yua said he saw Satan fall like lightning from Heaven seeming to indicate that he was there when Satan was cast out of Heaven I I don't have time right now but but that's just not the case it's out of context I explained it in detail in a teaching that I wrote on Facebook and I'll link to it in the description below called uh Satan falling like lightning these are things you need to clear up in your mind here's why there there is only one God his name is Yahweh you may know him as Jehovah and we don't take issue with names in this ministry but I thank God that his name has been revealed and we know that he is the only Creator if you give anyone else creation Glory besides the Creator you have committed a great sin because his creation Glory he will share with no one else he went to painstaking efforts to make it clear in his word that no one was with him now I want to clear up a a point of confusion real quick before we end this lesson in Genesis 1 he says let us create Man In His Image there was definitely someone there with him when he created man and we know who it was don't have time to explain it in this lesson now how could that line up with the other scriptures that say plainly that he alone that no one was with him because Genesis 1 and one is a total different creation than Genesis 1 and3 there's a lesson on our YouTube channel I'm going to link to it right here if you're watching by YouTube It's called before the beginning you need that understanding or you'll get so many doctrines wrong you must understand that the creation of Genesis 1:1 where he literally created the heavens and the Earth is not the creation of Genesis 1 and3 when you understand that then you understand that there was others with him at the recreation of our planets I'm giving away some of the details listen folks we love you we thank God for every one of you that supports first har Ministries we work night and day to release the truth of the coming kingdom of God it's a job it is a job this message is not popular it is definitely fought by the forces of Darkness so we thank you for your prayers please keep us in your prayers we get attacked but that's okay we fight on and many of you uh you support our ministry with tithes and offering God bless every one of you that sends us those little PayPal surprises those cash out we thank you from our hearts but do you know what we appreciate more than your money is when you do your part to help us spread our message your share button is powerful I wish you would use it right now there are others that need the same understanding that you have so on your social media platforms help us get this message out may God bless you and I hope that you have enjoyed your visit to the builtmore estate but more importantly I hope that you now clearly understand how yua existed before his birth he existed in the plans and the thoughts of Yahweh have a great and wonderful day [Music]

Summary

This message uses the Biltmore Estate as a picture of pre-existence through thought, blueprint, and plan before physical manifestation. The speaker teaches that Yahshua existed before His birth only in the plan and thoughts of Yahweh, not as a separate pre-existent person. The lesson argues that John 1 must be read through the Hebrew concept of “debar,” making the “word” Yahweh’s plan that was later manifested in Yahshua.

Core doctrine

Identity of Christ

Source document

Original source document

This teaching is shown above as searchable text so readers can jump directly to matched words.

Open source