Dr. Shane Vaughn; First Harvest Ministries Teaches; Examining Zech 10:12

Title: Dr. Shane Vaughn; First Harvest Ministries Teaches; Examining Zech 10:12 Summary: 1. Introduction to the new Bible study series — 00:00–00:40 Vaughn introduces himself as Shane Vaughn of First Harvest Ministries. He announces a new series for the ministry's YouTube subscribers titled Does the Bible Really Say That? He explains that the purpose of the series is to address questions about biblical passages that he believes deserve closer examination. He mentions that the channel has approximately 2,000 subscribers. 2. Introducing the question about Zechariah 12:10 — 00:40–01:31 Vaughn identifies Zechariah 12:10 as the subject of the study. He says there is a discrepancy concerning what the verse actually means. He acknowledges that he previously understood the passage in the same way as many other readers. He asks viewers to open their Bibles and examine the verse with him. 3. Reading Zechariah 12:10 from the King James Version — 01:31–02:15 Vaughn reads the verse from the King James Version because he believes it is familiar to most viewers. h him. 3. Reading Zechariah 12:10 from the King James Version — 01:31–02:15 Vaughn reads the verse from the King James Version because he believes it is familiar to most viewers. The passage describes Yahweh pouring out a spirit of grace and supplication upon the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. It then describes the people looking upon the pierced one and mourning. Vaughn draws attention to the movement between first-person and third-person pronouns. 4. The alleged grammatical contradiction — 02:15–03:12 Vaughn argues that the movement between “me” and “him” creates a contradiction. He questions how the speaker could identify himself as the pierced person and then refer to that person in the third person. He concludes that something is wrong with the translation. He attributes the difficulty to the work of scribes and translators. 5. The theological significance of the wording — 03:12–03:58 Vaughn explains that some people use the King James wording to argue that Yahweh himself was pierced during the crucifixion. He rejects that interpretation. He says the passage should not be used to identify Yahweh as the person who died on the cross. ahweh himself was pierced during the crucifixion. He rejects that interpretation. He says the passage should not be used to identify Yahweh as the person who died on the cross. He promises to demonstrate his position through examination of the Hebrew text and other biblical passages. 6. Examining the Hebrew through Bible Hub — 03:58–05:14 Vaughn opens Bible Hub and navigates to Zechariah 12:10. He focuses on the Hebrew form he pronounces elay. He identifies it as a preposition and directs viewers to its lexical information. He argues that the word does not independently supply the English pronoun “me.” 7. Strong's Concordance and the meaning of the preposition — 05:14–06:06 Vaughn identifies Strong's Hebrew number 413. He discusses the preposition el and meanings such as “unto,” “toward,” and “against.” He emphasizes that a preposition is not a noun. He uses this grammatical distinction to support his objection to the King James translation. 8. Explanation of English prepositions — 06:06–07:07 Vaughn consults an English grammar resource to explain how prepositions function. is objection to the King James translation. 8. Explanation of English prepositions — 06:06–07:07 Vaughn consults an English grammar resource to explain how prepositions function. He describes prepositions as words that establish relationships between other elements of a sentence. He applies that explanation to the Hebrew text. He again argues that the first-person wording should not appear in the translation. 9. The claim that translators inserted a pronoun — 07:07–07:53 Vaughn says translators supplied the word “me” to make the verse read naturally. He alleges that their choice reflected the theology of their period. He contends that this choice encouraged an interpretation identifying Yahweh as the pierced person. This is Vaughn's explanation of the translation history, not a fact independently established by the transcript. 10. Comparing the Revised Standard Version — 07:53–08:33 Vaughn identifies the Revised Standard Version and the Book of Yahweh as translations he believes handle the passage correctly. He reads the Revised Standard Version's wording concerning the people looking upon the pierced one and mourning for him. s translations he believes handle the passage correctly. He reads the Revised Standard Version's wording concerning the people looking upon the pierced one and mourning for him. He argues that the third-person construction is more consistent with the surrounding language. 11. Alleged Trinitarian influence — 08:33–09:24 Vaughn questions why the King James Version uses the first-person wording. He attributes the choice to what he describes as a Trinitarian theological agenda. He argues that translators should not allow doctrine to determine what Scripture says. He then turns to the New Testament for support. 12. John 19:37 as a witness to Zechariah — 09:24–10:22 Vaughn explicitly cites John 19:37. He explains that the Apostle John is referring to Zechariah 12:10. He emphasizes that John uses third-person wording when referring to the pierced person. Vaughn interprets John's wording as evidence that the prophecy concerns Yeshua. 13. Revelation 1:7 and the pierced Messiah — 10:22–11:10 Vaughn explicitly cites Revelation 1:7. He reads the description of the one coming with clouds, whom every eye will see, including those who pierced him. d Messiah — 10:22–11:10 Vaughn explicitly cites Revelation 1:7. He reads the description of the one coming with clouds, whom every eye will see, including those who pierced him. He identifies this figure as Yeshua, the King of kings. He argues that Revelation confirms the distinction between Yahweh and the pierced Messiah. 14. Final doctrinal conclusion — 11:10–11:50 Vaughn warns that Zechariah 12:10 can be used to support a doctrine that he believes the passage does not teach. He rejects the assertion that Yahweh died on the cross. He emphasizes that Yahweh cannot die and should not be identified as a mortal man. He encourages viewers to study the issue and reach their own conclusions. 15. Closing remarks and ministry invitation — 11:50–12:00 approximately Vaughn directs viewers to the First Harvest Ministries website and YouTube channel. He encourages subscriptions and mentions a goal of increasing the channel's subscriber count to 10,000. He closes with a blessing and wishes viewers a good evening. Dr. Shane Vaughn; First Harvest Ministries Teaches; Examining Zech 10:12 - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvCRaE2ZVy0 ith a blessing and wishes viewers a good evening. Dr. Shane Vaughn; First Harvest Ministries Teaches; Examining Zech 10:12 - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvCRaE2ZVy0 Transcript: (00:00) hello hello hello everybody it's Shane Von with first Harvest Ministries and I want to deal with a question tonight that uh that I think we need to talk about I started a new series for our YouTube our YouTube subscribers we're up to about 2,000 subscribers now and so I wanted to start a new series that um that you could benefit from and we're going to title the series does the bible really say that and this is basically to answer some Bible questions um that I think that uh need to be answered and so that's why we've started this little (00:40) series of um videos so tonight one of the questions that we want to answer is does the bible really say that uh concerning Yahweh in Zechariah Chapter 12 and verse 10 we're going to go there real quick get your Bibles and go there to Zechariah 12 and10 there seems to be a discrepancy about what this verse is saying what it's really saying most people and myself included uh we always read this a certain way and I'm going to go over to that s to be a discrepancy about what this verse is saying what it's really saying most people and myself included uh we always read this a certain way and I'm going to go over to that verse and let's read it together we're going to go to Zechariah 12 and verse1 (01:31) I'm going to read it from the King James version only because that's what most people are familiar with and I will pour out upon the House of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of Grace and supplication and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for him as one mourneth for his only son and shall be in B for him as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn now this scripture needs it needs it needs some serious study because one doesn't even have to be a theologian to read the scripture and see (02:15) a complete dichotomy in the uh prepositions and in the numbering of the persons in this verse so before I give any deeper ask yourself does this make any logical sense to your mind and they shall look up on me whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for him that's crazy that that that something is messed up about this verse and it's the lying pen of the scribes that is look up on me whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for him that's crazy that that that something is messed up about this verse and it's the lying pen of the scribes that is messed up cuz you can't have God saying they're going to look upon me and mourn for him it's either me or him it cannot be two now this verse (03:12) is used to try to prove that it was literally Yahweh God Elohim that was on the cross and that they pierced in the side and if you just read this verse at face value without serious theological discourse course that is exactly what it looks like it says but that's not what it says at all it actually says quite the opposite and we're going to show you that let's go over first of all we've established that you've got two uh different objects here in this verse me and him you cannot use the pronoun him for me you would have to use (03:58) the pronoun he or myself but you cannot use him and me that just don't work that's messed up that's jacked up so let's see exactly where the problem is and what the Bible is really saying I'm going to bring you onto my screen here and we're going to go over to Zechariah 12 and10 now this is the biblehub. (04:26) com you can em is and what the Bible is really saying I'm going to bring you onto my screen here and we're going to go over to Zechariah 12 and10 now this is the biblehub. (04:26) com you can go there for yourself and then pull up Zechariah 12:10 I want you to look at the second line when we get to the part that says and they shall look upon me on me and they shall look on me right here I want you to notice something very interesting this word is LA and it is a preposition look right there it's a preposition a preposition is not a noun a preposition simply uh addresses the noun or addresses the noun or supports the noun but interestingly enough there is no noun at all in the word elay as a matter of fact if you click on (05:14) elay uh which is 413 and the Strong's Concordance it's going to bring you uh to a much better understanding of of what this is this is definitely not a noun so the word me should not be here it is added um by the translators so look carefully you'll see the original word right here and you'll see that it is a preposition it's translated uh as as L and its phonetic spelling is Al and it simply means against which is a short definition or unto or towards but there is no see that it is a preposition it's translated uh as as L and its phonetic spelling is Al and it simply means against which is a short definition or unto or towards but there is no no noun here this is a preposition now go with me over (06:06) here uh to what I I like to go here because it's for dummies and it uh helps us to understand the English language and let's just study on what a preposition is uh the preposition is the words that uh let me scroll up in English you use prepositions to connect nouns or between nouns and pronouns and so basically the preposition is not even addressing the noun it is basically connecting the nouns and the italicized words relate two nouns to each other so here you've got to go back and understand and the word me me is not in the original Hebrew text at (07:07) all all you have there is the word Alay and simply meaning uh unto or towards but it's not a noun that word me should not be there but they had to put something there the translators did to make sense or the verse really wouldn't make any sense so they put in the best word word that seemed to fit with their Theology of the day now let's go over one other place and will be done uh the verse really wouldn't make any sense so they put in the best word word that seemed to fit with their Theology of the day now let's go over one other place and will be done uh Zechariah 12:10 let's go back there now there are several Bibles that has gotten this translation right one of them is the revised Standard (07:53) Version another is the book of Yahweh there are several Bibles that have realized the error they've realized that this is an error and they fixed it and you need to realize it and fix it and quit trying to make it say what it is not saying the revised Standard Version reads like this and I will pour out on the House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of compassion and supplication so that when they look on him whom they have pierced they shall mourn for him as One Mourns for an only child doesn't (08:33) that make more sense isn't that more in agreement with the original language why did they put there they shall look up on me it was a choice the translators had to make and of course those translators or trinitarian translators these uh there there's an agenda here folks there's an agenda here and we're going to let me prove it to you let's go ke and of course those translators or trinitarian translators these uh there there's an agenda here folks there's an agenda here and we're going to let me prove it to you let's go over to John 19 and verse 37 let's go to John 1937 now this is interesting it seems like the Apostle John knew exactly what the original scripture said in Zechariah and John (09:24) 19:37 and again another scripture said he's speaking of Zachariah 12 and 10 they shall look on him whom they pierced no mention of me or Yahweh but they will look upon Him whom they have pierced and that is what Zechariah 12:10 should read and thankfully some Bibles have corrected it it should not say me it should say him and um we'll prove it even a further let's go over to the Book of Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Revelation 1 and 7 and let's see if yet again we can get a Trilogy of scriptures behold he cometh (10:22) with clouds now I don't have to go back and show you um who the he is this is yua the king King of Kings behold he cometh with clouds and every eye shall see him and they also which pierced him and all kindreds of now this entire subject is about yua it is about the Son of God the son of man and um it's just uds and every eye shall see him and they also which pierced him and all kindreds of now this entire subject is about yua it is about the Son of God the son of man and um it's just plain as the nose on your face so we need to be very careful very very careful when we study the scripture because you can take Zechariah 12:10 and make it support your Doctrine you can make it support your (11:10) understanding that that was Yahweh that died on that cross there's a problem Yahweh can't die Yahweh is not a man and so therefore if you pierce Yahweh and kill Yahweh perhaps you've committed a greater sin than you intended to commit to begin with you you have fashioned him into a man and so anyway I hope that that uh gives you a few things to study and to decide for yourself does the bible really say that God bless you go to our website first harvest church. 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