Pastor Shane Vaughn Teaches "Feast of Firstfruits - Part 1"

Title: NO CLASS TONIGHT - We are Watching THE DEBATE Summary: Professor Toto live-streamed and provided commentary on the Fox News Red State vs. Blue State debate between Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and California Governor Gavin Newsome, moderated by Sean Hannity. The host watched the debate with viewers, interjecting occasional commentary on the candidates' statements regarding migration patterns, taxes, crime, homelessness, border policy, education, parental rights, and abortion. After the debate concluded, the host promoted the Patriots Buying Club and a new streaming service called Toto TV. NO CLASS TONIGHT - We are Watching THE DEBATE Shane Vaughn ——— First Harvest Ministries International moted the Patriots Buying Club and a new streaming service called Toto TV. 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where the foundational principles of our great Republic are still taught and true Patriots are still educated in the hallowed Halls of this school of Hope just like the iconic puppy from The Wizard of Oz who found great joy in pulling back the curtain on the lies of the wizard so does Professor Toto grab your seats and welcome to the conservative college class begins [Music] now good evening hello hello hello hello I'm not doing a show tonight I just got off 6 of an airplane and I look rough and I just just ran in my ative college class begins [Music] now good evening hello hello hello hello I'm not doing a show tonight I just got off 6 of an airplane and I look rough and I just just ran in my house and just barely got here in time for tonight but we are going to watch this debate together me and you and um I may chime in when I hear something stupid so I can tell you how stupid it is and uh I want you to learn tonight um I want you to learn while watching this debate uh now you know I'm not a DeSantis man but he has done a wonderful job in Florida compared to California so watch tonight and you'll see two different World Views one is capitalism one is socialism and uh we're going to see what we can learn from this class 7 tonight from this debate so it's about that time let's look it's time now so it's it's we're ready to roll I'm gonna live stream the debate right here and I'll watch some of your comments uh throughout the night and if they say something stupid I'll chime in and tell you how stupid that sounds um but it's going to be very interesting to see them duke it out and I think they're going to have people looking at it saying why don't I have a choice between these two why don't we ut it's going to be very interesting to see them duke it out and I think they're going to have people looking at it saying why don't I have a choice between these two why don't we have more options so it's going to be a big night and uh we're going to watch him duke it out coming up soon well can't 8 if you're just antis just say your State's a mess everyone's leaving there's homeless everywhere you had to clean it up for the Chinese can't you just point to his State and say what are you doing yeah well he will absolutely will do that um and then you're going to hear the counter punch that there's no freedom in Florida abortion issues all of that you're going to hear from Gavin Nome he's got a tough argument to make when it comes to the border education all of these things but he's really I think preaching to Democrats tonight saying you have other options out there I'm waiting in the 9 wings watch what I can do oh like I said he can't be too good or else there's going to be a civil war Martha thank you so much Sean Hannity is next thank thank you for doing this [Music] Sean here we [Music] go and welcome to Hannity and tonight we are broadcasting live just north of Atlanta k you so much Sean Hannity is next thank thank you for doing this [Music] Sean here we [Music] go and welcome to Hannity and tonight we are broadcasting live just north of Atlanta Georgia in Alpharetta Georgia where in just a moment we're going to hear from the Republican governor of Florida the Democratic governor of the great state of California for what is the first ever red state blue State debate right here on the Fox News Channel now we will do our best to give equal time to 10 each Governor we will limit answers to 60 seconds per question we'll be a little flexible as needed let the debate breathe as needed along with a 30- second time for rebuttal let me start by introducing both Florida Governor Ronda santz California governor Gavin Newsome Governors uh thank you both for being here really appreciate it great to be I know both of you personally I've known you both for a long time I know you're very busy um I also know this I know that both of you love your individual states I know you both have a deep and Abiding Love for our country as I do um but where we are in 11 the country we've never kind of been this divided in a long time there are clear and deep and profound ve a deep and Abiding Love for our country as I do um but where we are in 11 the country we've never kind of been this divided in a long time there are clear and deep and profound differences in your approach to governance and before we begin one quick note to all of you that are watching at home okay I'm now the longest running Prime Time cable host in the history of cable news I'm now and I feel blessed in my 28th year at Fox it's kind of widely known that I am a conservative however tonight I will be moderating this debate I will not be part of the debate our questions tonight will be coming from well sourced perspectives and you will see and hear most of tonight's 12 questions will deal with the most fundamental issues the ones that impact the lives of the people that make this country great the people of Florida the people of California and in many ways St in the country we'll discuss taxes the economy immigration crime guns homelessness education parental rights abortion gas prices in other words the things that impact you every single day in the end you will get to decide which governing philosophy you believe is better the governors will explain their governing philosophy he things that impact you every single day in the end you will get to decide which governing philosophy you believe is better the governors will explain their governing philosophy and again fact based questions so let's get started everybody ready all right we 13 uh as we speak there is a phenomenon it is playing out across the entire country Americans they are leaving blue States and droves in favor of red States you can see numbers on the screen right now from the years 2021 and 2022 these particular numbers are Stark in the state that you lead in the case of you Governor Newsome according to the US Census this is where the numbers come from in 2021 2022 California's lost 750,000 residents to other states Governor Des santis during that same 2-year period you gained $454,000 residents from other states so Governor DeSantis we had a coin toss I was 14 not part of it I missed it um but apparently Governor Nome you won the coin toss um and you chose to let Governor DeSantis have the first question you will get the last word tonight uh so I begin with you you know for governor Nome I will ask you know what your response is on this as well what do you it's a simple question how do ill get the last word tonight uh so I begin with you you know for governor Nome I will ask you know what your response is on this as well what do you it's a simple question how do you explain this phenomenon what governor what's going on when I was in the Navy I got orders to go to Naval Amphibious based Coronado in Southern California and I was a Lifeline Floridian but I went there and I was like man this is one of the most beautiful places on 15 Earth and I think California has more natural advantages than any state in the country you almost have to try to mess California up yeah that's what Gavin Nome has done since he's been Governor he's the first governor to ever lose population they actually at one point ran out of U-Hauls in the state of California because so many people were leaving of course he's imposed restrictions on his own people while exempting himself from those restrictions and going to The French Laundry while his people were suffering he led the country in school closures locking kids out of school while he had his 16 own kids in private school in person now he's very good at spinning these these Tales he's good at at being slick and slippery he'll he'll tell a out of school while he had his 16 own kids in private school in person now he's very good at spinning these these Tales he's good at at being slick and slippery he'll he'll tell a blizzard of lies to be able to try to mass the failures but the reality is they have failed because of his leftist ideology and the choice for America is this what Biden and Harris and Nome want to do is take the California model and do that nationally in Florida we showed that conservative principles work this country must choose Freedom over failure Governor Nome your reaction well it's good to be with you Sean it's nice also to see you in a a tie 17 as well tonight good to be with you uh Ron and I I dressed up for the occasion Governor dressed up no I'm I'm impressed and I'm grateful look it's important this is an important conversation and and I I think it's important the folks watching they're probably wondering what are we actually doing here and and and I want to answer that very directly I'll tell you why I'm here I'm I'm here uh to tell the truth about the Biden Harris record and also compare and contrast Rond desantis's record and the Republican party's record as a point of contrast that's as I'm here uh to tell the truth about the Biden Harris record and also compare and contrast Rond desantis's record and the Republican party's record as a point of contrast that's as different as daylight and darkness you 18 want to bring us back to a pre-1960s world America in reverse uh you want to roll back hard-earned National rights on voting rights on civil rights on lgbtq rights on women's rights not just access to abortion but also access to contraception you want to weaponize grievance you are focusing on false separateness you in particular Ron are on a Banning binge a cultural Purge intimidating and humiliating people you disagree with you and president Trump are really trying to light democracy on fire so so Sean there are profound differences tonight and I look forward to engag him but there's one 19 thing in closing that we have in common is neither of us will be the nominee for our party in 2024 Governor um great opening statement but didn't it didn't address the issue can you explain this migration out of California and going to Red state state mean the last two years more Floridians going to California than Californians going to FL I put up on I put by the way that's ration out of California and going to Red state state mean the last two years more Floridians going to California than Californians going to FL I put up on I put by the way that's going to be fun to fact check so we'll just start right there California has no peers uh California dominates size of 21 State populations combined it's the fifth largest economy in the world we dominate number one 20 manufacturing State we dominating two-way trade and research and development access to Innovation more scientists more researchers more Engineers more Nobel laurates in the state of California than any other state in the nation the finest system of higher education it's the birthplace of life science and biotech and nanotechnology we dominate in Green Tech we dominate in high-tech we dominate in artificial intelligence so with respect I think it's an interesting campaign strategy for Ronda santis to be bashing a state of 40 million Americans when California simply has no peers well that that's 21 a pretty slick way of not answering your question he went on a binge of putting out a lot of leftwing platitudes here's what I would say I I talked to a lot of the people that have moved from ck way of not answering your question he went on a binge of putting out a lot of leftwing platitudes here's what I would say I I talked to a lot of the people that have moved from California to Florida and we never used to get people from California to Florida or really anywh in these cuz why would you leave California it's got the best weather Great natural excuse me sir so but one of the things that I did I had I was talking to a gentleman a couple I'm going let I'm going to let the debate breathe but it's his turn let's take let's take turns so I was talking to a fella who had 22 made the move from California uh to Florida and he was telling me that Florida is much better governed uh safer better budget lower taxes all this stuff and he's really happy with the quality of life and then he paused and he said oh by the way I'm Gavin Newsome's father-in-law so we do count Gavin's in-laws as some of the people that have fled California um and come to the State of Florida and why are we why are we getting people to come we have a 50-year low in the crime rate you don't see in the last 10 years we've had a 45% decline in homelessness California's had a 45% increase in 23 homelessness eople to come we have a 50-year low in the crime rate you don't see in the last 10 years we've had a 45% decline in homelessness California's had a 45% increase in 23 homelessness we back the blue I was walking the streets of San Francisco a couple months ago and I had some of the cops in San Francisco do a beline to come over to me and I didn't know what they were going to say and they're like we want to thank you for standing for law enforcement because we don't get that support in the state of California so people understand quality of life matters they understand that Florida's doing it right and I can tell you the numbers speak for themselves we have way more people moving to the state than leaving Gavin can't say the opposite more people are leaving 24 California than are moving in Califor bring coming to California the other way of line last two years but let's talk about crime so Governor hold Governor wait a minute I think hold on a second said a lot of things that were factually untrue including that 50-year crime law which his own law enforcement team said should not be using you you have yet to address the issue but I asked you twice you don't want to answer but the ing that 50-year crime law which his own law enforcement team said should not be using you you have yet to address the issue but I asked you twice you don't want to answer but the issue of why the migration out of red States I'm sorry out of blue State we just established more florians coming to California in the last two years the over you had a net 25 loss asserted it it's a fact no it's not a fact a moving on let's go your states have vast different income tax rates okay it's it is what it is these are the facts California's highest rate for top earners 133% married couple for example in California earning a medium income of 84,000 they have a 6% income tax in the state of California Florida's income tax rate is 0% across all salaries but it goes beyond income taxes property taxes are lower in California but everything else is higher let's take a look at the numbers these are the facts the average property tax in California 75% Florida 26 0.91% sales tax California 7.25% Florida 6% gas tax rate California 77 cents a gallon that is a low estimate it's up to a dollar when you include mandatory fees and in Florida it's 35 corporate income tax California 8.84% Florida 5.5% Governor nia 77 cents a gallon that is a low estimate it's up to a dollar when you include mandatory fees and in Florida it's 35 corporate income tax California 8.84% Florida 5.5% Governor Newsome this is your question let me ask you obviously you support of different philosophy which isely higher taxes yes uh no well not no hold on tax question govern this is this is a very different a different approach and I agree with you completely uh he is one of the most regressive tax rates in the United States of America he the number three most 27 regressive state in America and what that means is simply this who does he tax he taxes lowincome workers more than we tax Millionaires and billionaires in the state of California the question is a simple one who Ron are you for for it's a factual lie that the state of California is high tax has the highest tax rate but for whom and it's a foundational and fundamental difference you look at States like Texas overwhelming majority of Texans pay more taxes taxes than the state of California so again it's who you're for and I think those values matter and I appreciate you bringing up the issue of 28 taxes how many people leave Florida to go to California of California so again it's who you're for and I think those values matter and I appreciate you bringing up the issue of 28 taxes how many people leave Florida to go to California because they pay less taxes I've not seen that or people go to from Florida to New York because they pay less taxes of course not they come to Florida because they pay lower taxes we don't even have an income tax and yet California has a higher sales tax than we do and that's one of the things that we do but here's the thing and and and I'll give I'll give Gavin credit he did at least admit in his first answer he's joined at the hip with Biden and Harris he thinks Biden and Harris have done a great job he thinks the economy is working 29 because of their policies for Americans and they are not and so what California represents is the Biden Harris agenda on on steroids uh they would love nothing more than to get four more years uh to be able to take the California model nationally that would be disastrous for working people in well let talk about working people they pay more in your state than the state of California charges for billionaires and Millionaires and it's just a value proposition it's a fact well let talk about working people they pay more in your state than the state of California charges for billionaires and Millionaires and it's just a value proposition it's a fact again you can't make you have six OR7 a gallon gas how do they how do they afford that these are folks that are blue collar 30 people talking you're going to force everybody to buy an electric vehicle how are they going to be able to afford electric vehicles if you're working class people and I think the thing about California they have one of the highest inequality rates because yeah they've got Silicon Valley billionaires they've got a lot of very wealthy people they've got a lot of people that are on government assistance but they've hollowed out their middle class that's who's been leaving California they've been leaving in other places they go to Arizona they go to Nevada they go to all these places like B out 31 this in California I'm happy that you continue to talk let's talk a little bit about biomics because I'm happy to take that on right now as well and I think it's a fair supporter of it that's I I appreciate you acknowledging 14 million jobs 10 times more than the last three Republican appy to take that on right now as well and I think it's a fair supporter of it that's I I appreciate you acknowledging 14 million jobs 10 times more than the last three Republican presidents combined because he had 115,000 manufacturing J jobs were because of the kid 3.9% unemployment as he continues to talk over me I'll talk to the American people 3.9% unemployment the lowest black unemployment in American history the lowest unemployment for INS Hispanics in American history the lowest 32 unemployment for women in 70 years the lowest black poverty rates in history that's this administration's agenda and by smirk over there you should know this the American people here's a guy who celebrated biomics just this week celebrating 28 don't ever forget those words proud and haris better grab that I may question California has lower taxes more lower than 32 states for Working Families in the middle class significantly lower taxes places you support a 6% income tax people a couple I'm agressive taxes that Advantage billionaires and millionaires over working families and the Working Poor 33 people in his state pay more taxes in the low end than we tax people on the highend that's fact $7 a ge billionaires and millionaires over working families and the Working Poor 33 people in his state pay more taxes in the low end than we tax people on the highend that's fact $7 a gallon gas help working people that doesn't help working people at all how does paying an 8% sales tax help working people that doesn't help working people at all uh they have the highest taxes in the nation people flee to be able to save money to get out of California and you have Working Class People that move to these other states their dollars go much further but here's the thing they want to take this biomics and they want to double down on this for the next four years how many people are 34 able to afford groceries now compared to what you were doing three or four years ago I talked to people you know I talked to a woman who had a had a card full of groceries going in and they're ringing it up and it got to be so expensive she has to take a lot of the stuff out that didn't used to be the case people used to be able to work hard and get ahead that is not true under Joe Biden and you know what Sean one more final thing California's unemployment rate is 60% higher than Florida's unemployment rate our k hard and get ahead that is not true under Joe Biden and you know what Sean one more final thing California's unemployment rate is 60% higher than Florida's unemployment rate our unemployment rate is 2.8% because it's a command and control economy they have a 35 political agenda that they're pursuing let me ask that question people honor with the question of jobs I think it's important you know what that affects that by the way that affects every Biden Administration the last three years been a master 3.9% I thought this state versus state but it's about the United States of America I thought this guy was running for president of the United States you're running you're running for a third you just won't admit it you will not admit it why that you're running all right we can't talk we can't talk I'm going to move on to the next question the 36 unemployment rate in Florida right now is just 2.8% you as you st stated uh and California ranks second worst in the country at 4.8% this question goes to Governor D santis and then you'll have a chance to respond Governor D santis well well right I mean they tax too much they regulate too much they have a political agenda it's not a good or D santis and then you'll have a chance to respond Governor D santis well well right I mean they tax too much they regulate too much they have a political agenda it's not a good climate for business they've lost a lot of companies a lot of companies have moved to Texas we have had some to Florida but they've lost a lot of companies to Texas because they're not doing a good job uh looking out for folks and not creating a good business 37 environment and um you know when I have people that come to Florida uh they tell me you know you guys actually want us to succeed in Florida and they feel like when they're in California they don't want business to succeed dis saying the Tampa Bay Ray well actually yeah I think that's an interesting point with Disney because uh I had Disney opened during covid and we made him a fortune and we saved a lot of jobs you had Disney closed inexplicably for over a year you were not following science you were a lockdown Governor you did a lot damage to your people you had more kids locked out of 38 school for a longer period of time in California than anywhere else in the country it was the working class kids it was the middle inome kids his kids were in ids locked out of 38 school for a longer period of time in California than anywhere else in the country it was the working class kids it was the middle inome kids his kids were in private school they were in class in the teers union he is owned by the teachers union you will never cross the teachers union a Lock Stock and let's talk about Co let's talk about your record on Co you passed an emergency declaration before the state of California did you closed down your your beaches your bars your restaurants it's a fact you had quarantines you had quarantines you had checkpoints all over the state of Cal of Florida 39 by the way I didn't say that Donald Trump laid you out on this dead to right you did that you followed science you followed fouchy R that's not he followed science he followed fouchi you were promting V you were promoting vaccines you even wore a mask in September youed if it's if it's okay with you we'll do this why were you do this in a way where we both going have you with Donald September 2020 he did all of that until he decided to fall prey to The Fringe of his party and as a consequence of that Ron tens of thousands of people lost their lives not true the ptember 2020 he did all of that until he decided to fall prey to The Fringe of his party and as a consequence of that Ron tens of thousands of people lost their lives not true the equivalent if I had to your 40 policies the equivalent of 10 911s tens of thousands of people lost their lives and for what Ron those are more lies in fact the Lance said just did a study Florida had a lower standardized covid death rate than California did that's a l study one more thing one more thing the other thing we had the other thing California had California had higher excess mortality than gentle gentlemen let me talk about the excess mortality real quick hity other I want to ask you both if slow down I want everyone to be heard if I can ask you I really do want this to breathe I want this debate to breathe I want 41 it to organically develop uh to do that I need both your cooperation I don't want to be a hall monitor it's not my style all right uh you mentioned Co let me go to co and I plan to bring this up later but you both took very different approaches as it comes to co Governor Nome you issued the nation's first stay-at-home order on March 19th of 2020 Governor DeSantis you took a lot of you both took very different approaches as it comes to co Governor Nome you issued the nation's first stay-at-home order on March 19th of 2020 Governor DeSantis you took a lot of heat for reopening schools you open schools in Florida in August of 2020 all right so here's the data which I think is important this is where the facts uh your State's death rates were almost identical this is 42 factually untrue on fact okay the na and by the way both your states with such different approaches which is pretty fascinating were both lower significantly lower than the national average these numbers come straight from the CDC so Governor New do how do you expl the facts per capita death rates in the State of Florida were 29% 29% per capita higher 29 people tens of thousands of people unnecessary he put the graic there don't lie about it necessar to lie because your polic you need to lie about it no it's not you were a lock down government you lock down time gav bars and restaurants that's 43 just a fact he's running away from his record he's running away from the fact tens of thousands of people died unnecessarily saw CD paved to the it's 29% higher death rate in the State of Florida running away from his record he's running away from the fact tens of thousands of people died unnecessarily saw CD paved to the it's 29% higher death rate in the State of Florida versus the state of California respon stat clear on a per capita age adjusted basis California and Florida basically the same now why is that important because Gavin Newsome did huge damage to people in California he ruined livelihoods we reopen the the the state very quickly we saved thousands of jobs we saved hundreds of th hundred thousands of jobs thousands of businesses we had our kids in school 44 he had the kids locked out of school because of the teachers union that is having a generational impact California has one of the lowest literacy rates in the country in the most recent nape exam Florida came in number three for fourth grade reading California was far far behind so you should apologize for not getting your kids in school why didn't you get the kids in school in the summer of 2020 like we did you bowed to the teachers only didn't do the job you should only only is Ron DeSantis for the tens of thousands of lives that died unnecessarily because he played played to The Fringe of 45 his party chers only didn't do the job you should only only is Ron DeSantis for the tens of thousands of lives that died unnecessarily because he played played to The Fringe of 45 his party we got to take a break F or finish your thought no and when it comes to the issue of schools you better be careful you had more learning lost during covid than the national average in the state of California we out it's a fact more learning loss your economy contracted more in 2020 quick break expanded slower than California in 2021 more to come on this topic more to come on this on this debate I know it's starting off next segment I guess it's it's been it's been rather dull at the start but uh anyway we got a lot to get to coming up uh many important topics that we're going to be 46 talking about including one issue where might he might find some agreement actually as we continue the blue State Red State debate we are live we are in alfaretta Georgia thank you for being with us okay well now learn anything in that first part I didn't learn nothing what did I I didn't learn nothing I learned I want to go watch that movie Napoleon though I want to go to the movies and watch that Napoleon uh anyway um you didn't learn nothing what did I I didn't learn nothing I learned I want to go watch that movie Napoleon though I want to go to the movies and watch that Napoleon uh anyway um you know first of all Sean's going to have to control it to where where facts can be proven or disproven I long for a debate it is boring Diane I agree I long for a debate I 47 don't like either man both of them to me are are nar I don't know that something ain't right about both of them but anyway I long for a debate where when one man says something let's prove it let's disprove it the moderator needs to say hey wait a minute you just said this this is what the facts say and hold them accountable you know hold them accountable because honestly they just overt talked each other so much that um let me get there we go they just overt talked each other so much I really could not tell who was lying and who was telling the truth you're right Audrey they're both endorsed 48 by uh George sand uh Soros but Shawn is not doing a good job so far hopefully he'll pull it together but uh both men are twins these are twins they really are they're twins they're both endorsed by George Soros both of them them um and I'd so far hopefully he'll pull it together but uh both men are twins these are twins they really are they're twins they're both endorsed by George Soros both of them them um and I'd love to hear a healthy debate I would love for Sean to say hold on you just said that stop stop stop what is the truth and and I mean hold these men accountable find the difference but did y'all hear what Gavin duome said he said neither one of us will be the nominee in 2024 so un you know of course he may be a liar like Nikki Haley is Nikki Haley swore she 49 would never run for president it see to me that's a character problem to me that is a character issue that's a lie she outright lied and said she would not run for president if Trump was running that makes her a liar that's a character flaw and so Nome just said neither one of them them would be the nominee so but he also said something at the beginning that he was there to speak on behalf of the Biden Harris Administration I'm wondering now if they're not going to turn Nome into their spokesperson during this whole campaign and he's out there practicing for that right now so maybe Nome is not 50 going to be running maybe he's going to be the pro y me into their spokesperson during this whole campaign and he's out there practicing for that right now so maybe Nome is not 50 going to be running maybe he's going to be the pro y I see that NSA might be the Biden proxy to get Biden uh through the campaign because we know Biden's too old to do it himself but he said at the beginning I'm here to speak for the Biden Harris Administration so I believe that they're going to make him their proxy uh Deborah you said he called him out on that I didn't hear him so if he did that is good I agree Ruth he's not a good proxy but but but now let's give him his due he is a politici watch how he is twisting everything expertly he believes it himself all right we'll be right back 51 Blue State Red State debate with Governor Gavin Nome and Governor Ronda santis Gentlemen let's move on to the issue of borders Joe Biden's message to illegal immigrants during his campaign was let them come I'd have the tape but I said I wouldn't play the tape and since taking office Biden said he's gotten control of the Border vice president kamla Harris uh Homeland Security secretary May orcus uh Biden's press secretary Karine Jean Pierre have all said the border is id he's gotten control of the Border vice president kamla Harris uh Homeland Security secretary May orcus uh Biden's press secretary Karine Jean Pierre have all said the border is either secure or the border is closed yet the border patrol says well guess what they have been a record 6.5 million encounters 52 with illegal immigrants and so-called Asylum Seekers at the border since President Biden took office the administration says well they don't know how many people actually are in the country illegally gentlemen the American people I ask you um I believe it's your turn Governor Nome have the American people on the issue of borders you're defending the Biden Administration they're saying the bord secure they're saying the bord is closed those are the numbers from our own border patrol are the American people being lied to I don't think they're being lied to Biden Administration put out a 53 comprehensive plan day one when he got sworn into office three years ago and the Republican Party didn't touch it they haven't moved on it they play politics with us and I'll be honest with you I think there's probably one person I wouldn't listen to on this topic more than the guy that I'm t they haven't moved on it they play politics with us and I'll be honest with you I think there's probably one person I wouldn't listen to on this topic more than the guy that I'm standing next to Ronda santis he is absolutely lacks any credibility on the issue of immigration when he was in Congress he supported amnesty when he's in Congress you supported John Boehner's Bill to fact when you were in Congress you supported you supported Obama's efforts to advance comprehensive reform 54 the last guy you want to talk to on the IM isue immigration your immigration policy can best be described as a governor from the state of Florida going into another state the state of Texas lying to migrants promising them jobs and housing sending them to an island Martha's Vineyard and then sending him to a parking lot in Sacramento California I met with those migrants that you lied to under false pretense that kind of gamesmanship using human beings as pawns I think is disqualifying so again a guy who stands here Sanchez is not ready for big with backpacks uh and that he has a strategy to 55 potentially even invade our second largest trading partner uh Mexico that has a record of supporting anchez is not ready for big with backpacks uh and that he has a strategy to 55 potentially even invade our second largest trading partner uh Mexico that has a record of supporting amnesty and supporting reforms under the Obama administration is the last guys to be standing on stage talking about the issue of immigration reform tonight well I'll tell you what it's deja vu all over again with that flurry of Lies this is a guy that says the Biden Administration is not lying to the public about the Border they go to the white house uh briefing room every day they say the border is secure they are lying to you we know that that's not true Gavin Nome is lying to you when he 56 says somehow I supported these things which I didn't do he's also lying to you about what it's take to solve this problem California is a sanctuary State uh they thumb their nose at Federal immigration law and this has real consequences uh there was an illegal alien Herbert Nixon Flores uh who was in LA uh in custody was a repeat criminal ice wanted to take him into custody because then they would be able to deport him La refuses to work with ice and so they wouldn't turn him over they end up releasing him on the l ice wanted to take him into custody because then they would be able to deport him La refuses to work with ice and so they wouldn't turn him over they end up releasing him on the street he ends up murdering the mother of a three-year-old little girl girl uh 57 that those policies are deadly uh they do not work and I'll tell you this uh the Martha Vineyard transport Martha Vineyard said it was a sanctuary jurisdiction kind of reminds me about Gavin Nome when he restricted Californians then he went to the French Laundry these liberal Elites they like to impose burdens on you they don't want to have to face the consequences of their actions so we've got a lot of Elites who want open borders who lecture everybody else about it and the minute they have to deal with any of the consquences oh man all hell breaks loose on the top the case on the on the same 58 topic this is important this is a very important question while some migrants I know want to come to America for a better life for themselves and their family find the American dream I I totally sympathize with them uh many good people fing very bad situations abroad um but others are abusing the Asylum process and in the process family find the American dream I I totally sympathize with them uh many good people fing very bad situations abroad um but others are abusing the Asylum process and in the process in search of of where they're coming from we're now learning that many are coming from some of our top geopolitical foes countries with little to no vetting or people that are coming in they're not being vetted look at these numbers between October 2021 October 2023 59 border agents encountered 6,386 Nationals from Afghanistan 3,153 from Egypt 659 from Iran the number one state sponsor of Terror 538 from Syria 12,605 from Russia and a whopping 26,3 from China now my question the next question goes to you Governor Nome what are the odds that that Biden's open borders have allowed terrorists and Terror cells unvetted into this country is that a clear and present danger to every American the odds are 100% of course our enemies are going to take advantage of of this he opened the Border he's not uh VI he's violating his oath of office to take care that the laws 60 are Faithfully executed he's knowingly having 8 million come in and yes there's criminal aliens there are terrorists there's a lot of fentol that ice to take care that the laws 60 are Faithfully executed he's knowingly having 8 million come in and yes there's criminal aliens there are terrorists there's a lot of fentol that we've had tens of thousands of fentanyl deaths I've had the uh uh I've met a lot of Angel parents who have lost kids to fentol overdose and and the problem is you you'll have a a a college kid that may take some pill not knowing that there's fentol in it and then right there that can be fatal they're poisoning our people and Joe Biden is sitting on his hands he refuses to take care of the Border he refuses to hold the drug cartels accountable this is 61 the vision of Biden Harris Nome open borders Americans suffer and Americans continue to die because of fence and over us there will be unfortunately a terrorist attack at some point that will be able to trace back to our Southern God forbid by the way do you see that risk Governor govern do you see do you see the risk Joe Biden put out not only a comprad a plan he consistently puts up plans hold on I'm I'm going to answer your question I I support border security I think the Asylum system is broken I believe that we need I'm the one that I'm the only guy uts up plans hold on I'm I'm going to answer your question I I support border security I think the Asylum system is broken I believe that we need I'm the one that I'm the only guy here it's a border state Governor 62 you're trolling folks and trying to find migrants to play political games try to get some news intention so you can out Trump trump and by the way how's that going for you Ron you're down 41 points in your own home state on the issue of immigration Joe Biden put a $4 billion immigration package up in front of Congress 2300 border agents as well as custom officials 1,000 new law enforcement officers to deal with a fentanyl issue and by the way that's a major issue in your state 41% higher overdose rates than the state of California and here's what I haven't heard not a peep from Ronda santis 63 they want to demagogue this issue you want to play politics with issues you don't want to solve this issue why don't you lead your party support that4 billion hold on I have a followup Governor Newsome I appreciate your answer you have mentioned comprehensive immigration reform many times it's not happened under Joe Biden I don't think it's going to happen put a detailed plan me I appreciate your answer you have mentioned comprehensive immigration reform many times it's not happened under Joe Biden I don't think it's going to happen put a detailed plan and republicans in Congress refused to act on it let let me finish my Congress to work with was with all of these millions and millions of people coming into this country unvetted the question was and remains is this a 64 clear and present danger from the countries I put up on the screen is that a clear and present danger to America and what do you do in the inter president of the United States put a 14 billion package in front of Congress they can act on today and what would they haven't done anything years this Congress literally not a single piece support legislation I support the $4 billion package president's put forward that includes 2,300 border agents and Customs official by the way also includes $850 million in new technology for border security you hear nothing from Ronda santz you hear nothing Sean 65 respectfully you hear nothing from the Republican party they play politics president put the plan up to address does let me ask the question another way does it worry you that our top ectfully you hear nothing from the Republican party they play politics president put the plan up to address does let me ask the question another way does it worry you that our top geopolitical foes the number one state sponsor of Terror Iran China Russia uh the Afghanistan Syria that they're at our Southern border you're a border state Governor does that does that concern you at all the SEC I put the the answer is yes why El would I put the National Guard why would I just increased it by 50% on the largest port in the western hemisphere in my state I mean this guy has no record there's no 66 I mean the fact that you supported amnesty the fact you supported Obama reforms those are facts they're just simple facts the fact that your greatest contribution this debate backpack so inh I don't mind him lying to me I don't mind Gavin lying to me but I do mind him lying to you he is sitting there saying that Joe Biden is willing to solve this problem is there anybody out there that actually believes this Jo bid created this problem so if he's willing to lie to you about that you know he's lying to you about all these other facts and figures uh about all this other stuff he's just Jo bid created this problem so if he's willing to lie to you about that you know he's lying to you about all these other facts and figures uh about all this other stuff he's just throwing 67 stuff out to see what sticks against the wall this is a slick slippery politician whose state is failing people are leaving his State and he's trying to run interference for his failure got to take our we got to take our second we got to take our second break we're going to when we come back we have a lot more ground to cover quick break we have a lot of ground to cover more with Governors uh DeSantis and Newsome the great blue red State debate as we continue from alfaretta Georgia again thank you for being with [Music] us well here's something I I you know I couldn't help but notice uh I God 68 knows I can't stand Nome he's an arrogant but Ronda santz is not ready for Big Time debates he is I I hate to say it nome's lying but he's he's he's sad sad to say he's a better debater um Ron is not big time he's not ready for this could I'm imagine he he is not ready for this not at all um yeah thank God he's not going to be our Presidential nominee just thank the Lord for that huh Lord have mercy for this could I'm imagine he he is not ready for this not at all um yeah thank God he's not going to be our Presidential nominee just thank the Lord for that huh Lord have mercy um I agree uh I agree with you uh K pain I agree with you Ron is uh thank God uh I he's just not a good debater he's allowing Nome to just run over him noome guys Nome is a politician and Nome uh 69 is going after him I like what my wife said there on the screen Nome is not in sheep's clothing he is straight up evil arrogance it darts out of his eyes ugly ugly ugly I agree this is why uh ladies and gentlemen we love Donald Trump I promise you the arrogance see people people don't understand why Christians could support Trump he's not nice he's not darling we did we are not looking for a pastor we're looking for a president that can stand toet to- Toe with the lies of the left I promise you if Trump was on that stage right now he would never let this happen unfortunately we need somebody 70 like Trump that can stand up to these elitists on the left and I Promise You Gavin Nome is uh at this point he's eating Ron's lunch with lies but still a good debater listen when I debating someone and I love to debate litists on the left and I Promise You Gavin Nome is uh at this point he's eating Ron's lunch with lies but still a good debater listen when I debating someone and I love to debate I because I believe debate is healthy I believe debate uh uh codifies an issue I love to debate but I will never allow myself in a debate where the uh truth cannot be made evident and plain and uh you've got to be able to push back you've got to be able respectfully to push back so what Trump understands he understands you have to get dirty with the dirty sadly um that's just 71 the world we live in and um so anyway yeah I saw Donald Trump was endorsed by the way guys I don't know if you know about the mercel family billionaires uh they are billionaires they are the people that put Donald Trump on the map it was their money that inaugurated Trump and made him shoot past everybody else they've got $88 million and the word on the street is now they got out of politics after Trump won and they've not supported anybody but the word on the street is that the Mercers are back in the game on the Trump train with that $888 million that they're about to release to Donald Trump 72 uh so anyway Donald Trump guys rd on the street is that the Mercers are back in the game on the Trump train with that $888 million that they're about to release to Donald Trump 72 uh so anyway Donald Trump guys this it's a trump world it's a Trump World all right okay be right [Music] back all right welcome back to the Great Blue State Red State debate uh with Governor Gavin new governor Ronda santis again thank you both for being here we're going to take a little breathing room I don't I don't mind the debate taken on on a life of its own but let each other breathe um I don't want to be the homeall monitor please don't turn me into that anyway let's uh let's look at the issue of crime FBI numbers violent crime nationally for each of your states keep in mind this 73 statistic shows what is the combined rate of homicide rape robbery aggravated assault the year 2022 on the national level the rate was 38.7 offenses per 100,000 people in California meanwhile the rate was much higher 499.00 th000 in Florida lower 250 58.9 offenses per 100,000 Governor Nome let me start with you your numbers are way higher than the national average how do you explain that when Safety and Security I would argue is a prerequisite for ,000 Governor Nome let me start with you your numbers are way higher than the national average how do you explain that when Safety and Security I would argue is a prerequisite for the pursuit of happiness well I couldn't agree with you more we're near 50-year lows down 55% violent crimes in the state of California from the 74 1990s and I want to compare and contrast that with the issue in Florida that you didn't mention and that's the murder rate and let's broaden it more broadly the issue is seven out of numers were part of the murder R seven of the top 10 murder rates in the United States America are red states he has a 66% higher gun death rate than the state of California has a higher murder rate go to places like Jacksonville go to places like Orlando go to places like Tampa the murder rates off the charts compar compared to cities like San Francisco and you know what even more egregiously Sean and I think 75 this is important the American people deserve an answer from you Ron you had one of the most worst mass shootings in America history Parkland 177 kids were gunned down lives lost 17 others lives torn aunder you had a young girl by the name of Jamie Gutenberg whose father worst mass shootings in America history Parkland 177 kids were gunned down lives lost 17 others lives torn aunder you had a young girl by the name of Jamie Gutenberg whose father pleaded with you to do something about it and you know what you did they did the exact opposite you made it easier for felons to get guns without background checks without any training these people pleaded with you parents and the families to get tough on gun safety and again you made it easier for felons he said of you Iran 76 and I agree with them after after you sign that concealed carry bill which increases the likelihood Fred Guttenberg said of more Jamies losing their lives and more Parklands he called you weak pathetic and small so with respect I appreciate you're talking to police officers in the state of California you may want to spend a little bit more time not on the Ohio Trail and other places across this country you may spend a little more time back in your home state and address the murder and gun violence in your own backyard this is this is the Slick politician you put up the rates he has 500 per 77 100,000 Florida is 250 so that's almost twice as much and he's trying to spin that to say own backyard this is this is the Slick politician you put up the rates he has 500 per 77 100,000 Florida is 250 so that's almost twice as much and he's trying to spin that to say California's doing good people are leaving California in droves largely because Public Safety has collapsed uh they have I mean you you go when California's come to Florida one of the things they'll say it's almost like an aob Body Experience they can go to the store get toothpaste off the shelf pay for it and leave because in a lot of these places in California everything's under lock and key because they' basically legalized retail theft they have chosen in California to put the interest of the 78 criminals over Public Safety uh they treat uh they're easier on sex offenders they're easier on all these crimes that are leading to a collapse in the quality of life and if you just walk around San Francisco uh you will see and I think it's interesting Gavin Newsome was mayor of San Francisco so he took the San Francisco model turned that into a template for California's collapse now the left wants to take the California model and use that as a template for America's collapse we cannot let govern no no I got d that into a template for California's collapse now the left wants to take the California model and use that as a template for America's collapse we cannot let govern no no I got a followv flaan Francisco is 126% higher it's 84% it's 75% higher what what let me 79 also say what are you talking about when jaing I know you like ja those are you like Li any time you're uncomfortable he put you he put the statistics up there your crime is higher doing about gentle gentlem going gun murder rate in your state we'll let the audience let the audience look at the numbers the FBI numbers and the side according to the gun control advocacy group every town uh for gun safety okay California has the most as you support I know Governor restrictive gun laws in the United States yes uh Florida has the 19th most restrictive yet if you look at the year 2019 when each of 80 you took office uh California has had 21 mass shootings Florida has had nine now that is according to a USA Today AP Northeastern uh University database uh data keep in mind a mass killing is defined as the intentional killing of four or more victims excluding the deaths of unborn children and the offenders by any means within a e uh data keep in mind a mass killing is defined as the intentional killing of four or more victims excluding the deaths of unborn children and the offenders by any means within a 24 period of time um I believe Governor Dan santis you get this first go ahead what California wants to do is they want to make it harder for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves than they go easy on the criminals who are perpetrating the crime they don't stand up 81 for the men and women of law enforcement that's why a lot of people have left the state because they don't get the support from the communities that they need and you know Gavin told another lie he said we made made it easier for felons to do felons are not allowed to possess Firearms that's federal law that's been long that is an absolute lie that he's saying like that that has nothing to do with buying or purchasing a weapon so that's just a lie another lie that's coming up but here's the thing people are leaving California in droves because he has failed to stand up for Public Safety they 82 are on an ideological joy ride to let people out of prison early to go easy on them heck your buddy Gavin's buddy in Los Angeles gasone he ed to stand up for Public Safety they 82 are on an ideological joy ride to let people out of prison early to go easy on them heck your buddy Gavin's buddy in Los Angeles gasone he doesn't even prosecute when you have I when I was in Southern California for the Reagan debate uh a lot of the women tell me they have to take off all their jewelry just to be able to go shopping because otherwise they're going to get mugged that is the reality that people are facing in California Gavin can try to put lipstick on that pig but the fact of the matter is he has failed the people of California I love this guy talking about backing the blue when 83 you dangled pardons for January 6 insurrectionist 85 of them that were literally were charged with attacking law enforcement you talk of big game about backing the blue with all due respect to the crime rate again he's not answering the fact that he has a higher murder rate than the state of California 66% higher gun death rate than the state of California and I can easily answer this point gun safety saves lives I don't think it I know it and the data bears that out in the state of California California proudly does lead in terms of Common Sense ly answer this point gun safety saves lives I don't think it I know it and the data bears that out in the state of California California proudly does lead in terms of Common Sense gun safety common sense gun safety saves lives 84 you had the chance to do something meaningful you had chance to do something on behalf of those Parkland families you did the exact opposite you moved in the exact opposite direction with all due respect look at your own backyard Ron you're not mining your backyard on this issue I will do that because we have some of the we had two radical left Soros District Attorneys like your buddy gasone in La one in Tampa one in Orlando they were endangering the public and I removed them from their post Gavin Newsome has not lifted a finger to rain in gasone and La uh that that city has collapsed that 85 County's collapsed because he is not enforcing the law here this is what's happening that California model in Philadelphia 15 seconds we got to go break come on I mean you're running for president United States you're talking down the great state of California you're talking down one of the Great American cities Los Angeles that's insulting and you're doing it for president United States you're talking down the great state of California you're talking down one of the Great American cities Los Angeles that's insulting and you're doing it because you're trying to ausc the facts that you have a higher murder rate in the state of in the state of California the lowest crime weights we've had in 50 years we we'll have more with Governor DeSantis Governor Gavin Newsome on the 86 other side as we continue the great state debate blue versus red there's hardly any differences a lot of ground to cover thank you for being with us we are in beautiful alpar R Georgia thank you for joining us on Hannity I should have just did a show tonight Lord have mercy [Music] I should have just did a show tonight y'all oh Lord come here sapper I agree sapper yeah I should just show tonight thank you camper 36 pounds now my baby said this is a show I agree Nicole y'all my wife's so mad in there she cannot stand Gavin Nome y'all go get you a jar peanut butter like me with some gra crackers 87 enjoy the show because it is I can't cuss but it's a you know what show thank you uh Buck F oh I 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I'll be right back remind me I got to tell y'all [Music] something all right welcome back to Hannity the great red state blue State debate we continue with Governor Ronda Santos of Florida Governor Gavin Nome of the State of California Gentlemen let's turn to the issue of Hannity the great red state blue State debate we continue with Governor Ronda Santos of Florida Governor Gavin Nome of the State of California Gentlemen let's turn to the issue of parental rights 89 now in March of last year Governor DeSantis as you know you signed the parental rights and education Bill and let me read from it it says classroom instruction by school Personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade three or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in according with State Standards critics have called the bill quote homophobic they this is the one they branded that don't say gay bill I ask you Governor DeSantis in especially the lower grades should schools and maybe all 90 grades should schools be focusing on Reading Writing Math Science History computers and maybe leaving values considering parents might have different values than teachers at school um to the parents to religious institutions uh or is it the role of the school what is the role the role of the school is to educate kids not indoctrinate kids it's not to impose an agenda it's to do the basics and itutions uh or is it the role of the school what is the role the role of the school is to educate kids not indoctrinate kids it's not to impose an agenda it's to do the basics and what we've said in Florida is it's inappropriate to tell a kindergartener uh that their gender is a choice it's inappropriate to tell a second grader that they may have been born in the wrong body now 91 California has that uh they want to have that injected into the elementary school my wife and I have a 75 and a three-year-old we don't think that that's appropriate I know most parents do not think it's appropriate uh it's also important to respect parental rights to know what curriculum is being used used in the classroom and everything should be age appropriate I actually have something that I brought that some parents have objected to so this is a book that's in some of the schools in California Florida this is not consistent with our standards called gender queer I it's some of it's 92 blacked out you would not probably be able to put this on air this is pornography it's cartoons it's aimed at children uh and it's wrong so this should not be in schools uh when people like on the left say that bly be able to put this on air this is pornography it's cartoons it's aimed at children uh and it's wrong so this should not be in schools uh when people like on the left say that somehow you're Banning books by removing this from a young kid's classroom no this is not age appropriate and so we're going to stand for the rights of parents I think we need to do that Nationwide I don't think you can have a situation where some states just trample on the rights of parents parents have a fundamental right to direct the education and upbringing of their kids I mean by 93 the way you've been on a Banning bench 1, 146 books have been banned just last year under Ronda Santa's leadership I love that he keeps pulling this out I've seen this he's been doing this all of the campaign show what's wrong with Tony Morrison's books it's not banned what's wrong it's not true not what's wrong with the Manda Gormans in the poetry 1,46 1,46 books have been banned on your Banning bill in the State of Florida as it relates to parental rights come on California it's in our constitution parental engagement it's called the lcff process we actually require parental engagement on 94 curriculum development and rental rights come on California it's in our constitution parental engagement it's called the lcff process we actually require parental engagement on 94 curriculum development and we don't complete lie we don't require K through third grade sexual education that doesn't happen till middle school what you're doing is is using education as a sword for your cultural Purge and you know what with all due respect you know I remember in the 1970s in the 1970s we had a bill called the Briggs initiative and there was a guy by the name of Ronald Reagan so offended by the Briggs initiative which was the original don't say gay bill in that case it was not allowing teachers that happen to be gay to teach and Reagan had the courage to stand up and he said 95 you can't catch gay like you can measles I don't like the way you demean people I don't like the way you demean the lgbtq community I don't like the way you demean and humiliate people you disagree with Ron I already find this fundamentally offensive and this is a core value that distinguishes the values of my state and frankly the vast majority of Americans against the weaponization of Education I have a follow-up question for you though a core value that distinguishes the values of my state and frankly the vast majority of Americans against the weaponization of Education I have a follow-up question for you though um and by the way first governor yes or no is are the book Banning issues is that not a state issue is that a State issue or a local issue local and he's I 96 want to know wasn't there the question here's the question I have for you Governor um some of the books you're talking about one is called the governor just brought it up it's called gender queer a memoir explicit pornographic book showing sex acts another flamer graphic book about young boys performing sex acts at summer camp uh this book is gay a book containing instructions on the ins and outs of gay sexuality let me finish uh let's talk about it a book that contains contains graphic descriptions about how to masturbate for males and females my question to you Governor Nome those books do 97 you believe that's appropriate for school districts to teach kids yes or no come on those aren't not it's not part of the curriculum they're not teaching kids those are books that were in school hold on hold on the bottom line is you are in a book Banning come on those aren't not it's not part of the curriculum they're not teaching kids those are books that were in school hold on hold on the bottom line is you are in a book Banning binge your state, 146 books 3,362 in this country you didn't answer what about those books that's we don't provide for K through third grade education that kind of curriculum it's just made up these guys make it up it's part of this cultural Purge just a find but what I find offensive Sean and Ron what I find offensive is the a very 98 significant number of these books happen to be lgbtq books a significant number of these books African-Americans honestly think we don't teach that we have sex education in middle schools in high schools where it's appropriate this is a gend up madeup issue to divide this country you talk about dividing this country this is part of the culture War the weaponization of grievance this is part using educ we're focusing on math science we're focusing on reimagining ouro criminalizing teachers and criminalizing librar check out the WR a liberal agenda social justice they have this ethnic studies 99 where they're dividing people that's what they're doing but let me just say criminalizing librar check out the WR a liberal agenda social justice they have this ethnic studies 99 where they're dividing people that's what they're doing but let me just say something about parents rights cuz he says California respects parents rights this is Rich he's been telling a lot of Whoppers tonight this may be the biggest in California if you're a parent in Iowa or New Hampshire South Carolina your minor child can go to California without your knowledge or without your consent and get hormone therapy puberty blockers and a sex change operation all without you knowing or consenting how in the heck is that you honoring parents rights when you're bringing people from out of state to 100 go around their parents' backs and getting life-altering surgeries that is radical that is Extreme that is an assault on parents rights you know what it's not for you to decide it's for the parents to decide the parents do not kids going to these other things let me go follow let me stay on a follow up let's turn to the issue of education decy and humanity and gra of taking ripping somebody away GLE nobody should not stand in this let us turn gentlemen if I may to the issue of Education rn to the issue of education decy and humanity and gra of taking ripping somebody away GLE nobody should not stand in this let us turn gentlemen if I may to the issue of Education uh here is public school spending per K through 12 students according to the Education data uh initiative 101 from the US Census Bureau and National Center for educ they just let new slide all the way out better than me Florida is ranked number one by US News and World Report uh in terms of State education rankings California ranks 20th Governor Nome what is your explanation you spend more money and they have better results in Florida why I told you what I'm doing in public education we created a brand new grade prek for all we're doing after school and summer school for all we're reimagining the school day not just the school year we just provided 3.4 million of our students upwards of $2 billion for 102 child savings accounts and the opportunity to start businesses when they graduate we have one of the best records under Co during covid and again you didn't answer to the fact you had more learning loss Ronda santis had more learning loss during covid fourth grade reading fourth grade math 8th grade o during covid and again you didn't answer to the fact you had more learning loss Ronda santis had more learning loss during covid fourth grade reading fourth grade math 8th grade reading eighth grade math we outperformed you and every it's a fact during covid in every one of those categories I'm I'm I can't wait to get all the PolitiFact tonight because Ron you keep denying some basic fundamental facts on health wealth and education we outperformed you during covid you talk 103 about things to apologize you should apologize for your covid record you are with fouchy you aligned with vaccines you aligned with CDC guidelines until you didn't in tens of thousands of people let's return our Focus to education well we we when we open the schools we bucked all of those people June of 2020 he kept the schools closed for a long time uh and that had devastating impacts and why what Gavin Newsome does in California is cow toow to the teachers union whatever they tell him to do he does he will never B boock the teachers union that's why the kids were locked out of school for so 104 long Joe Biden is in the pocket of the teachers union and so is Camala Harris that's why they fought School teachers union that's why the kids were locked out of school for so 104 long Joe Biden is in the pocket of the teachers union and so is Camala Harris that's why they fought School opening when he came in there they came into office teacher to be able to do all these different things to try to keep the schools closed so the Democratic party the far-left in this country they are owned locked Stock and Barrel by the teachers union I beat the teachers union in Florida to get the schools open first in the country during covid also to do Universal school choice every parent in Florida has a right to send their kid to the school of their choice we're winning these fights 105 California is bending the knee to the union because they control the politician let's move on a topic that will seemingly play a very large role in the future elections and it's the issue of abortion I have a question for both of you I'll ask you to please respect the individual's right to answer uninterrupted uh and that is Governor DeSantis um I I think it's actually your turn Governor uh Nome if you don't mind all good most medical professionals believe a baby is viable outside of a mother's womb by between 24 and s um I I think it's actually your turn Governor uh Nome if you don't mind all good most medical professionals believe a baby is viable outside of a mother's womb by between 24 and 26 weeks that is the general scientific consensus it changes there are some 106 variations on it abortion is legal in your state quote up to viability is my understanding unless the mother's health is in danger um I'd like to get you on the record you've been unwilling to answer this question do you should there be any restrictions on the issue of abortion that you support at all because funding in California you have allocated in your budget 265 million for abortion last year alone my question very specific do you support any restrictions at all on abortion especially in months Seven 8 and N past viability I'm going to answer that question but let's talk about the issue 107 of abortion let's talk about the issue answer it I'm gonna answer that question I'll repeat that but I think this is important and it Bears repeating Ronda santis signed the most extreme anti-abortion bills in America he signed a bill Banning any acceptions for rape and incest and then he said it didn't go far enough and decided to a santis signed the most extreme anti-abortion bills in America he signed a bill Banning any acceptions for rape and incest and then he said it didn't go far enough and decided to sign a six we ban before women even know they're pregnant Ron before women can even access a doctor's appointment so extreme is your ban that criminalizes women and criminalizes doctors that even Donald Trump said it was too extreme on the issue of the extreme 108 exception that you highlight as it relates to the issue of later term abortion it's almost always because of a fetal anomaly the life of the mother and in those rare cases I trust and answer your question I trust the mother and her doctor to make that decision so in other words I want to be clear on this if a woman and her doctor for any reason not for any reason extremely rare this is a I know where you guys are going Sean you're even uncomfortable with this whole issue and I understand this is where you guys have to go to cover for the extreme abortion agenda of Ronda should there be would 109 you support a ban on abortion in seven eth or nth month if if the mother's life is not in jeopardy extreme extreme exception people aren't going on and a should there be would 109 you support a ban on abortion in seven eth or nth month if if the mother's life is not in jeopardy extreme extreme exception people aren't going on and having abortional unless something devastating has happen should be up to the mother and her doctor and her conscience and it restri I've already answered it and I reinforce it to cover up again hold on for the most extreme abortion banic country I have a simple question though this is important I'm asking the question Sanders will you or will you not sign a six we ban in the unlikely case States Nation let talk about your St you had 15 we 110 question uh you had a 15we rule in in California you reduced it to six uh my question is this uh what was your thinking behind it was it for religious reasons was it for uh scientific reasons what was the reason for you um from going from 15 weeks to 6 weeks well I believe in a culture of life I think we're better off when everybody counts when everybody has an opportunity to do well uh and that bill uh attaches when there's a detectable heartbeat uh for the child and some states have done that some states have done others some states have done uh later and ll uh and that bill uh attaches when there's a detectable heartbeat uh for the child and some states have done that some states have done others some states have done uh later and obviously they have a a right to do 111 that uh but I think about one of our Floridians a lady named Penny Hopper uh she actually survived a late term abortion uh back in the day and and they left her on the on the uh the table there to to basically wither away her grandmother came saved her brought her to a brought her to a hospital brought her saved her and she ended up living a living a good life so so she counts and she matters and I think that what the position that we have from the modern left including in California is that they will take your tax dollars and they will fund abortion all the way to the moment of birth he's 112 wrong when he says the the later terms are all because of this 88% past 15 weeks are in fact elective uh from from the Florida dat he doesn't keep data there but that is really extreme to take your tax dollars uh and to do this all the way up uh to the moment of birth he didn't answer your question about any type of protections at all for a baby that has a beating heart that tax dollars uh and to do this all the way up uh to the moment of birth he didn't answer your question about any type of protections at all for a baby that has a beating heart that can feel pain that is respectfully this is important conversation will you or will you not support didn't support on your you could answer that in any other the issue no Sean not Amer people should know it's all answered 113 for can't answer it he will sign that extreme americ people should know I'm call this the lightning round be great if you guys cooperated I'm not a pot plan here um I want to ask you we all know that federal policy does have a huge impact on States we know that I'm going to ask ask you three simple questions and I just want onew answers okay from three of you CU best coming up on a break and the issue is right now Joe Biden is President so uh I would like both of you to give a grade to Joe Biden overall as president governor new I'll give a an a absolutely Master failed and a failure okay 114 that's your number two are his policies helping or hurting your individual states is it helping the state of Florida inflation is hurting our state big time uh fail he failed he's failed on the mber two are his policies helping or hurting your individual states is it helping the state of Florida inflation is hurting our state big time uh fail he failed he's failed on the econom GU science in in Tech ACT thank you Joe Biden uh it's absolutely accelerating our dominance in manufacturing accelerating our revitalization that was a simple answer unequivocally absolutely yes okay I will ask you Governor DeSantis I have played over and over again and Governor Nome you have seen over and over again um Joe Biden is experienced what I believe to be significant cognitive decline 115 and in other words it's the toughest job in the world is Joe Biden experiencing this cognitive decline is it a danger to the country do you find when he speaks what is your reaction to it yes he's in Decline yes it's a danger to the country he has no business running for president and you know Gavin Newsome agrees with that he won't say that that's why he's running his shadow campaign uh he should not be running uh he is not up to the job uh and it is dangerous for this country well I'll take I I will take Joe Biden at a 100 versus Ronda santis any day of the week at any age in fact all of the 116 folks to the job uh and it is dangerous for this country well I'll take I I will take Joe Biden at a 100 versus Ronda santis any day of the week at any age in fact all of the 116 folks think you think he's up to the job you think he's I've been spending plenty of time with B in private public you don't know and by the way results matter inflation now is down to 3.2% wages are up to 4.4% the economy is booming 5.2% GP growth in the last quarter there are facts you don't hear on Fox News 14 million jobs 10 times that was now on March 31st 1968 president Lynden B Johnson famously said I shall not seek and I will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president now despite being an incumbent president who is eligible to run for reelection Governor 117 Nome I've interviewed you twice on this issue you say you are not running for president in 2024 in fact you recently said quote you think that vice president Harris is naturally the one lined up to run for president if Joe Biden were to bow out Governor Nome tonight I ask you will you make an LBJ like statement and Governor DeSantis you say he's running a shadow campaign in your response I would like you to answer that t Governor Nome tonight I ask you will you make an LBJ like statement and Governor DeSantis you say he's running a shadow campaign in your response I would like you to answer that will you say unequivocally under no circumstances are you running correct I've said I don't know how many times I can say just making this stuff up about a shadow campaign if 118 bottom if at the DNC convention they come and ask will you run what will you say Joe Biden will be our nominee in a matter of weeks and in a matter of weeks Sean he'll be endorsing Donald Trump as a nominee for the Republican party if they come to you at the DNC and Joe is incapable of running and they ask you are you a hard no it's not even it's not even optional he's doing fantastically I appreciate and respect the work the president's doing and the vice president is the Biden Harris campaign and team so absolutely unequivocally continuing to support their efforts President Biden will be 119 reelected Donald Trump I think he's I think what he's saying should color every single thing I mean I've called him on a lot of the lies but he says Joe Biden is 100% up to the job you know that that's not true anybody that can look he ying should color every single thing I mean I've called him on a lot of the lies but he says Joe Biden is 100% up to the job you know that that's not true anybody that can look he wants you to believe him over your own lion eyes when he says the economy is so great how great is it when you're going to the grocery store now how great is it when you're trying to afford a home how are those those interest rates doing what about affording a new car so we have to get real here we have to understand that that Biden is not up job but here's the 120 here's I think the problem uh what Biden would do the people around him they would look to California for the model to go forward in the next four years that would accelerate the decline of this country freedom is what works the failures need to be left in the dust bin of History tell tell tell tell about freedom to women that you're trying to criminalize in your state all right we're retreating to Old years of freedom is not a state of Freedom one of the things I wanted to accomplish here is the policies that you both Implement have a great impact on the citizens of your individual states um 121 for years a gallon of gasoline governor nuum in ted to accomplish here is the policies that you both Implement have a great impact on the citizens of your individual states um 121 for years a gallon of gasoline governor nuum in California has been notably higher in your state than in the State of Florida that's right here are the numbers by the way recent numbers the average cost for a gallon of gas Nationwide just over $324 in Florida $3 $7 in California it is a whopping $485 so Governor Nome I ask you you've also sued big oil companies alleging Executives have deceived the the public about uh the health of our planet knowing that it's a ploter if your lawsuit is successful that would likely mean higher gas prices even higher gas prices for everybody here's my question 122 though could you name right now one source of energy that you could bring online in the next 3 to 6 months that would be as inexpensive for the people in this country as fossil fuels let me let me let me let me touch can you can you think of that energy let me touch on the I'm going to get to your question and let me touch or the latter part of your question let give the first part of the question you're absolutely right since the 1980s Republican e I'm going to get to your question and let me touch or the latter part of your question let give the first part of the question you're absolutely right since the 1980s Republican administrations Democratic administrations uh have experienced under their uh stewardship experiened higher gas pric in the state of California 123 we've been ripped off by Big Oil we continue to be ripped off by Big Oil Big Oil now has met a new Foe and that's the state of California the most aggressive anti- gouging law in America more transparency being required than any time in America and yes we're suing we're suing the industry responsible for this climate crisis by the way the same climate crisis that Ronda santis celebrated as human human CA who campaigned for a racking B who campaigned to oppose offshore oil drilling and then two days after he got elected sign an executive order by the way Nikki Haley had you dead to r on this 124 Ron signed an executive order doubling down saying you're adamantly opposed to fracking adamantly opposed to offshore oil drilling you were celebrated by the Sierra Club for that action until you weren't once again it shows the hypocrisy of Ronda santis now you're ng adamantly opposed to offshore oil drilling you were celebrated by the Sierra Club for that action until you weren't once again it shows the hypocrisy of Ronda santis now you're running away from climate change as things have gotten worse hurricane wildfires droughts and floods $179 billion of weather weighted related disasters and he has no response except talking points from Big Oil that was that was that was aou again just just more lies but here's the thing California is the only one that oil companies 125 are gouging why aren't they doing that to Georgia or Florida or these other states that have lower gas prices because of their policies that's why people are paying more there but Gavin wants to do what he's doing in California what bid wants to do nationally is government dictated green energy policies uh they want to kneecap fossil fuels and reliable energy we've already seen what's happened in California they have rolling blackouts he actually implemented a mandate to buy to buy electric vehicles so pretty soon in California you're not going to be able to buy a normal car only electric 126 vehicles and they celebrated that as like a great thing couple days later uh ehicles so pretty soon in California you're not going to be able to buy a normal car only electric 126 vehicles and they celebrated that as like a great thing couple days later uh there was a notice from the state government telling all EV owners do not plug in your EV because they don't have enough grid capacity so he is walking his people into a big time disaster what Biden wants to do is he wants to take the California model he wants to impose that nationally he wants to take away your ability to purchase the car that you want he wants to kneecap reliable energy and I he wants to bring these rolling blackouts all across the United States of America it doesn't work it's going to cause huge 127 problems we have more energy here we can be the dominant energy producer in the world Florida is not a biggy State we have the Marcel we have the west Texas we have all of that so let's do that no forcing electric vehicles we got to take a break American Automobile when we come back we'll continue the great state red state blue State debate more with Governor Ronda santz more Governor Gavin Nome as we continue thank you for being with us from Alpharetta Georgia all right so here's the deal red state blue State debate more with Governor Ronda santz more Governor Gavin Nome as we continue thank you for being with us from Alpharetta Georgia all right so here's the deal uh Newsome is making it very clear said that's why I wanted to watch this debate tonight not because I'm 128 interested in anything he has to say really but I've been trying to get a feel for what's really going on with him and Biden and I must tell you that my mind is changing uh I don't believe that he is going to replace Biden I don't believe that's the plan I believe he is going to be the mouthpiece and that's why he accepted this debate they are trying him out to be the proxy for the Biden campaign hey the guy's good I don't care I can't stand his policy but he's a snake and that's what they need so he's making it very plain that he is there to defend the Biden uh Camp the Biden campaign um I I 129 really wish they would have nailed him down now I I need to talk to you about something that I've been trying to teach you for a long time did you see the abortion part of that debate that's why did you hear him say Donald Trump knows what he's doing did you hear him say what Donald Trump wanted Nome to r a long time did you see the abortion part of that debate that's why did you hear him say Donald Trump knows what he's doing did you hear him say what Donald Trump wanted Nome to say even Trump believes that's too extreme that was beautiful advertisement for Donald Trump just then because Donald Trump understands that this abortion subject if you don't frame it right you are going to lose and you've got to be willing to allow exceptions uh I mean I I'm preaching 130 tomorrow night at my church you don't want to miss it if you're you need to tune in tomorrow night at uh six Central to my church where I'm going to be preaching on that subject of abortion and God has revealed to me why roie Wade was overturned at the moment that it was I have a lot of spiritual insight into this subject that God revealed to me while I was alone this week in my hotel he gave me the revelation of abortion and it's really going to blow some of your minds but Nome just proved that they are going to chew us up and spit us out on the abortion issue with Independent Women but 131 Donald Trump knew that he has already planned for that see he could never have backed Trump into the corner that he just backed n the abortion issue with Independent Women but 131 Donald Trump knew that he has already planned for that see he could never have backed Trump into the corner that he just backed uh uh Ron the sanctimonia into we've got to get the abortion messaging right we've got to and Donald Trump does Donald Trump is for a reasonable amount of time 15 weeks 12 weeks whatever it is that's the only way any Republic will be able to win they will have to have a more nuanced approach to abortion and you just saw that in the debate wait till we get into the general election debates Trump knew this was coming when all of you were throwing fits that Trump needs 132 to be stronger on abortion I beg you don't don't make him do that I beged you he's trying to win a war not a battle a a whole war and so he's already positioned himself so I wanted you to see that in this debate what they're going to do on the extreme views of abortion make sure you listen to that sermon tomorrow night okay I'll be right back and then I want to talk to y'all about something when this is over welcome back to welcome back to Hannity the great red state blue State debate we continue with Governor Gavin Newsome Governor Ronda alk to y'all about something when this is over welcome back to welcome back to Hannity the great red state blue State debate we continue with Governor Gavin Newsome Governor Ronda santis uh according to the Department of Housing and 133 Urban Development uh these are the numbers for the homeless population in each of your states it is a big problem around the country in the state of California it is 172,000 in Florida it is 26,000 now the per capita numbers are pretty much the same for California it is 44 per uh 10,000 people while Florida has 12 per 10,000 people so Governor DeSantis uh I I ask you why the disparity what are the policies you are implementing that is different from that of California California is adopting leftist policies Gavin Newsome was uh Governor or uh mayor of San Francisco he put out a 10year plan 134 like 20 years ago and in California the people that flee always bring up this they've really empowered lawlessness and drug use and you know Gavin new one point tried to say that California was the freedom State I just kind of laugh like you're locking people down you're doing all this but then I thought about it you know California does have freedoms uh that