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Marcus Rogers REPENTS ~~~ I give him HONOR

FHMI-1032Shane Vaughn2024-12-24Sermon

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  • (primary) 1 Corinthians 6:1–8
  • (secondary) Matthew 18:15–17
  • (secondary) Matthew 27:24
  • (secondary) Mark 6:7
  • (secondary) Proverbs 27:17

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Marcus Rogers REPENTS ~~~ I give him HONOR !!! - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWZ4FnpPvhw Transcript: (00:02) God Bless [Applause] America I love stand beside her and guide through the night with the light from above from the mountains to the pries to the the O wide [Music] with bless America my home sweet God bless America my home sweet [Applause] (01:18) it is so rare for someone to do the right thing that I could not ignore someone that did the right thing tonight now hello I'm Professor to the conservative College I'm also Pastor Shane vau that's the real me that's the one that serves the body of Christ and does everything in my power to stand with the word of God and that is what I tried to do ever since the Fiasco the drama the massacre the Salem Witch Trials has begun against dayar television before we get started tonight I have no dog in this fight I don't know (02:04) joanny lamb Susie Jonathan never been to dayar and I'm not necessarily a fan we have doctrinal differences so I'm not here to defend anyone but the truth tonight I am happy to see Marcus Rogers who has been at the Forefront of this massacre against Johnny lamb he has a tremendous platform and he was one of the first ones that gave a massive voice to Jonathan and Susie lamb now Professor Toto me Pastor Von went live about two weeks ago and I made a prediction I told you that every podcast that has joined in on this massacre of (03:05) dayar would wind up with egg on their face I begged them to stop I pleaded with them as a matter of fact I'm probably the only podcaster with influence that has stood for dayar television I take that back that has stood for the word of God and dayar just happens to be the beneficial iary of that I came to this Channel and told you what was about to happen not because I'm smart but because the word of God is solid and sure and because the word was not followed in this drama now tonight Marcus Rogers has egg all over (03:57) his face however I'm grateful for that because Marcus just released a video and we're going to watch it together and Marcus Rogers I wanted to come here tonight and do this because when I went to YouTube about an hour ago after you released your repentance I thought surely somebody out there would be supporting you they would be saying that that's the right thing to do but I found the total opposite I found everyone destroying you for your repentance so I had to turn on my camera as a pastor in the body of Christ and let you know sir you did the (04:47) right thing and if no one else is proud of you tonight I am and I believe Yahweh himself is for you cleaned up a mess that you helped to start and by your own admission you helped start it by your own admission you jumped in where the word of God forbids you to jump in before we play this video from Marcus Rogers and and you're going to want to watch this you're going to want to share this you're going to want to watch it come to pass exactly what we told you would happen and trust me there's more to come other podcasters will soon have (05:31) to repent why I want to show you why I want to share my screen with you and I want to bring you to something that nobody likes to go to it's called the word of Yahweh the word of God the Apostle Paul he says if any of you have a matter against one another such as Jun Jonathan Lamb and Johny lamb a mother and a son in God's Church they are under the jurisdiction of the Ecclesia the church and if they have a problem with one another how dare you Paul says go to the court of public opinion or the court of law or go before (06:19) unjust men such as YouTube viewers Fakebook viewers social media viewers Paul forbids it but he said says go before the Saints only let the Saints judge the matter not the world do you not know that the Saints are going to judge the world and if the world is going to be judged by you are you not able to judge the smallest matters know you not that you're going to judge Angels how much more things that pertain to this life if if then ye have Judgment of things pertaining to this life set them to judge who are least esteemed in (07:08) the church Paul says I am ashamed of the body of Christ he says I'm ashamed of Marcus Jones and all you other ones that jumped in and brought this matter before the world is it so is there no one wise in the church Church no one has everyone become sensationalist is there no one that knows how to conceal a matter and let it be resolved privately is there no one left Paul says no one that can judge between Brethren but rather we go to the court of public opinion against a brother before the unbelievers and we help Satan (08:03) destroy the church Satan has the easiest job in the world destroy the church destroy the leaders up you can sit your recliner Satan we'll take care of that for you we got this we bring them on YouTube Interview them and let them destroy their own mother before the whole world now Paul says there is a problem among you there is a fault in God's church because you go to court of public opinion with one another instead of just taking the wrong instead of just suffering and allowing yourself to lose the presidency (08:46) of dayar no you do wrong and go to the unbelievers now I want to show you the proper way to handle the problem with Jonathan and Susie lamb I came up I created this little four-step graphic and I want you to look at it there is a proper way for Jonathan Lamb there is a Biblical way for him and his mother to have handled this problem now I realize my voice is not the popular voice I understand that but I promise you it's the biblical voice let's look at it step number one request a private inperson one-on-one meeting (09:39) with the offended party they did that what was the problem they secretly recorded it and then when asked if they recorded it they lied breaking the word of God dishonesty they will ask in that meeting are you recording no so in other words that was not a private meeting the word of God Demands a private meeting so Jonathan and Susie have violated step number one number two if it's not resolved call in seasoned Elders two or three and let them judge the matter privately it doesn't say go to YouTube before unbelievers again (10:33) violating the scriptures step number three since the Apostle Paul forbids bringing matters of the church before the world let's go to step four and they didn't do that they brought it before the whole world but step four says if the issue is unresolved with the elders request a private meeting before the entire congregation for a ruling and then agree to honor the Judgment of the congregation Now ladies and gentlemen what I just went through is all biblical anything besides what I just taught you is Antichrist or anti- (11:23) word and every podcaster on YouTube that one went after johie lamb and did not follow this biblical protocol you are the problem you are part of the Salem Witch Trials oh but what about the child I'm going to tell you about the child it's called immediately go to the police file a police report let there be an investigation and if someone has touched a child throw them in jail and throw away the key but for God's sake don't leave it up to the court of public opinion all right sadly that is what Marcus uh Rogers did he violated (12:16) these scriptural protocols I begged every one of them to follow this example and what should have been done very simple after the meeting with the mother call in three or four pastors privately handle the matter handle it and trust me if a child has been abused get it to the police department not before the whole world to where now with this young girl gets to be 17 18 years old it's all over the Internet whether it's true or not and that's not for me to judge I'm not a police officer but here's what is for me (12:57) to judge this was all handled unscriptural let's see what Marcus lamb has to I'm sorry God Rest his soul Marcus Rogers has to say before I speak about anything and I'm going to try to make this short sweet and simple number one I Repent publicly all right for jumping into what I thought was a pool and it became a ocean of mess and drama I remember when God gave me that word about he's going to expose The Roots of things and it was going to sound like a movie this is literally like a movie and uh even though you know my heart you know I (13:39) don't want to say was in the right place I felt like hey I just want to share my platform with Jonathan and Susie so they can speak out share the side of the story the reality of the matter is I was not informed and if anything I was not informed this is a wonderful repentance he is not avoiding his guilt not involved but if anything I should have just let them send a video in where I'm not interviewing them they're just telling their side of the story and then I just post it and I don't say anything I disagree it's not your place to post it (14:21) it should have been done privately guys we are not here to help Satan destroy the church so if Jonathan and Susie would have sent me that video do you know the first question I would have asked them have you brought this before the elders if not it's not coming on my platform I made a mistake going down there not being informed about both sides of the story the Bible says a fool only one side of the matter I made a foolish decision I made a decision that was based on you know I thought I I just I have personal experience with dealing (15:00) with people who have been abused I've had to confront AB abusers in the church in the Pulpit I've seen them go to jail uh I was emotional because it just it disgust me the thought of something like that happening to a child and to be honest when I read the story I'm like there's no way in the world you're going public you know against your mom like this you know and what your father built and saying these kind of things but the reality of the matter is that was not it was not wisdom and it was not biblical but Marcus Rogers you have done (15:37) exactly what the scriptures commanded you have confessed you have repented and you did the right thing I want to address CLA Clara Taylor Clara keeps talking about in the comments that a child is involved and then she goes on and says what if there is a abuse Clara if there is abuse the court of public opinion is not the place for that to be determined and God forbid we accuse a minister of covering up child abuse without any evidence of that I agree a child is involved what do you do you go to the law the police not Marcus Rogers (16:30) let the police do their job and for God's sake we don't crucify people over accusations even from a child because remember the Salem Witch Trials began with a child the Bible says a fool only hears one side of the matter and I Was a Fool to go down there even though I thought I was doing the right thing what I should have did guys send me a video I'll upload it so you side can be heard right now Mary Alvarez says that I'm wrong there were no Elders of course there were Elders they're surrounded by season ministers that would have been (17:15) more than happy to sit down with all of them and work this out privately to protect the work of God and what's so sad no matter how many scriptures I show you from the Apostle Paul you don't care you don't care forget what the Bible says we want to tear up people it's a shame it's sickening but that being said I want to you know I'm praying for the daughter the granddaughter because she's the real victim and all of this regardless of how you look at it she's a victim of a you know a billion dollar Christian company having this uh fallout (17:53) and so I want to say this right I made a mistake and now it's like okay I got to clean it up I got everybody calling me now mind there's a lot of people praising me there's a lot of people saying Marcus you that was awesome you did the right thing the easy thing obviously would have been just to leave it there and leave it I agree and last night I went live and I said Marcus it's not enough to say I'm washing my hands I don't know if anybody saw that live you can watch it it's on this YouTube channel on this I (18:26) went and said that's not enough originally Marcus didn't repent he Saidi washing my hands and I said no you don't get to wash your hands of murder pilate you must repent before the body make it right let them know this is not how we handle things and I'm so proud of him for doing this problem is I did ignore some red flags I felt some things in the spirit I knew everything wasn't you know but I I just I did something and it was foolish bottom line and so to the daughter to the granddaughter right um I'm praying for you and so I got all (19:02) these phone calls from these pastors and all of the pastors even though they didn't agree on everything that was going on they pretty much were saying the same things privately um that I was feeling and one of the things that they said even though they didn't agree is they said the biblical and honorable thing for you to do is for you to go get uh Joanie side of the story amen that's the biblical thing myself because you went down there and let them say what they said on your platform which I shouldn't have did now (19:35) the biblical and aor to do even though Joanie can tell her side uh from the day star you need to go down there and I knew immediately because I made a mistake I'm about to get a spanking because I knew that wasn't going to be a good look so I didn't want to do it at first because I said no matter how I go down there it's going to uh I'm going to look bad people are going to be mad people going to be upset but to me I care more about being biblically right oh how refreshing that sounds I care more about being biblically right (20:11) now granted I wish you would have been biblically right and that concern from the beginning but Marcus that is all that matters to be biblically correct and we're living in a church age nobody cares about the Bible it's almost as if let's just throw it out but you did the right thing and God Yahweh is going to bless you and honor you for this repentance and so at first when Joanie called me I said no uh I'm good then I talked to the pastors again they gave me that counsel and I understood okay this is the right thing to do even though (20:45) people are going to be mad so you know I told Joanie look I don't want you to buy me um lunch buy my PL tiet I don't want nobody now I want to clear up somebody's misunderstanding somebody thinks that Marcus on his own volition went to dayar looking for the truth that is not correct Joanie reached out to him he did not reach out to her he would not have had the poll to reach out to her so I just wanted to clarify that you know and Clara Taylor I I'm not sure what you're not getting Clara I'm going to address this again she says I don't care (21:24) what Roger says only the child Clara here never going to hear what the child said so give it up Sister the police will hear it and Life Will Go On we were all wrong I'm sorry many were wrong for accusing Johnny lamp of covering up child abuse when that is evidently not what happened why can we not be willing to accept there was two sides to this story thing anything like that now I will say this um I you know ask could I bring this elder to the interview you got I said Elder but it was just really an older man of God that I knew and the reason (22:14) why I wanted to bring him is because I felt like I was going into something that you know I didn't know what I was going to get this is dayar this is this big thing you know Jesus sent them two by two you know iron sharpens iron and so you know you some of you guys know Cory Miner the smart Christian I was like let me bring him with me so that way when we do this interview we can get all the tough questions whatever things that maybe I miss he can be there and we can you know do the interview together and so At first she said yes she (22:44) didn't and then the next day they said we want all the names of everybody coming I gave them the names and then Marilyn Kellum hello Marilyn so glad you're here tonight does anybody not think that we all care about this child I I think that it's I think it's presumptuous to think that none just because we want the truth doesn't mean we don't care about the child we care so much about the child that we're calling out the parents that put the child on display and the parents that wrote a letter to dayar I showed that letter (23:23) last night that was willing to continue to continue covering up the child if they were made president of dayar we all care about this child but there is something I care about more than a child it's truth and it's coming out because it always does that he couldn't come so at that moment right I knew I'm about to get a spanking I should I I if I had did my due diligence and used more wisdom I knew I was going to go down there I knew it was going to be a softball interview um I knew that I was going to get backlash so you guys (24:04) you know and the reason why I wore suit people say why you wearing suit I wore a suit because I didn't know what I was getting into you know I'm from a military background you go to the White House or whatever you put a suit on it wasn't like because I see one side better or because I was looking for a job interview I knew like I'm about to go down here I'm going to get a banking so I went there you know they were eating lunch and I didn't I didn't eat anything so it was a little bit awkward and as you guys saw you want to call it a softball (24:31) interview fine but the bottom line is they showed me stuff that showed me why what I did was foolish now listen carefully they showed him stuff at the end of this interview you're going to find out they showed him a lot of stuff they showed him so much that he came home and willingly took egg on his face remember Marcus lamb is the one that Pro Marcus Rogers is the one that promoted this attack against johie lamb what did they show him you're going to find out in a minute they showed him that Joanie could release something publicly against (25:16) her son and daughter-in-law that would crush all of this but she is a mother and she refuses to do it but they showed it to Marcus that send him home ducking for cover um there was stuff that was definitely uh questionable and so you guys saw it everybody was mad about it I came back I prayed I and and by the way this is coming from the man that said that the Holy Ghost told him that Joanie lamb was guilty in that first interview with Susie and duck he said the Holy Ghost told him that Joanie was guilty of all this he discerned (26:01) it sometimes we need to listen to the written word rather than our own discernment what we think is discernment stay at the church I said God I I made a mistake I jumped in too early I didn't have both sides this is way bigger than me I was not prepared now that's what a man does a man of God does what he just did I made a mistake I jumped in too quick I didn't use discernment now I got to take the hits that come with that so prayed about it I said I God you know uh you know what do I do what do I feel about all (26:33) this stuff and I do feel like God gave me something um and I'm just after this I'm going to leave it alone and um you know I'm going to butt out of it and I'm going to wash my hands and I'm praying for the daughter I believe that she's the most important you know the situation with Pete I was about the situation with Pete I saw all the evidence you know text messages things like that and the only thing that I felt about that you know this is my this is what I feel you know this I felt God told me when I had my situation uh with (27:02) my child um I had to walk in the light right because I believe in not giving Place Dale mudget uh thinks they threatened him brother I'm not sure where you're getting that from they showed him what they have on Jonathan and Susie and it caused him to literally say okay I was wrong about this somebody made an accusation like that against me would just come out and let God be my judge look now I have somebody on here saying I don't want to hear anymore on this subject but the problem is the reason you don't want to hear (27:42) anymore is because now the real truth is coming out the sensationalism is dying and the real truth is coming out that everyone was wrong of course we don't want to hear no more about it we we go out and attack people and then as soon as we find out we're wrong we want to have nothing else to do with it e e (29:38) before I speak about anything and I'm going to try to make this short sweet and Suzy all right um I apologize for not going down there prepared um if I had more information then I could have been properly prepared to even ask you guys certain questions that don't put you in such a good light because the reality of matter is your mother has stuff that she could H she could highlight and put on her platform that would make you look really bad and then it would be up to the court of public opinion and she could did you did you hear that your (30:33) mother could crush you they showed him something they showed him something and he just said your mother could crush you the mother is the one holding back because after all she is a mother um and that's just the reality I saw some of the stuff and anybody who's objective you know if that stuff got put out there right the text messages and things that I saw it would not be good and so the bottom line is look I'm not qualified to judge it but I prayed about it and the word that I feel is God show me Jacob and then (31:13) they asked are you recording and you lie and you said no lying you know that is wrong and and Su all right um I apologize for not going down there H tight um if I had information then I could have been give me one second something's going on hold on give me one second we we had a little Russian attack right there and I had to change IP addresses give me one second I'm not sure what you guys certain questions that don't put you in such a good light because the reality of matter is your mother has stuff that she could (32:10) highlight and put on her platform that would make you look really bad and then it would be up to the court of public opinion um and it and she could crush you but she didn't um and that's just the reality I saw some of the stuff and anybody who's objective you know if that's stuff you can listen to the rest of it of course I'm not going to do it tonight but he basically said your mother could crush you thank you for your opinion Brian Foster but we have stood for righteousness in this situation and I'm thankful that Marcus Rogers has done the (32:53) right thing

Summary

The transcript is Vaughn's response to Marcus Rogers' public repentance concerning his involvement in a controversy surrounding Daystar. Rather than making the underlying allegations the theological center of the discussion, Vaughn centers his argument on 1 Corinthians 6:1–8, contending that Christians violated biblical procedure by taking an internal dispute into the public arena. Marcus Rogers REPENTS ~~~ I giv… Marcus Rogers REPENTS ~~~ I giv… Vaughn then develops what he describes as the proper biblical process: private confrontation, additional witnesses or elders, and finally church adjudication if the matter remains unresolved. This portion unmistakably follows Matthew 18:15–17. Marcus Rogers REPENTS ~~~ I giv… The sermon's principal point is therefore not that Vaughn establishes the truth of every allegation in the controversy. Rather, he argues that the method used to handle the dispute was unscriptural, and he commends Rogers for acknowledging his error and attempting to correct it publicly. The factual claims concerning the people and allegations involved remain claims within the transcript and have not been independently verified.

Core doctrine

1 Corinthians 6:1 - 8 - Vaughn teaches that conflict between believers should not be tried before the unbelieving world or a social-media "Court of Public Opinion," but should be judged within the body of believers according to scriptural procedure. He combines Paul's instruction that brethren should settle their disputes within the church with Matthew 18's Private-to-congregational discipline process, and he applies those passages to the Daystar controversy. He therefore commends Marcus Rogers' public acknowledgment that he entered the dispute prematurely, presenting repentance and correction as more honorable than continuing to defend an action once one believes it violated scriptural order. The application of these passages to the particular Daystar dispute and to the conduct of the named individuals is Vaughn's interpretation and application; this scripture index does not independently verify the underlying allegations or disputed facts.

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