Part 15 - Joy Comes In The Morning - Examining Predestination, Election, Free Will and Calvanism

Title: Pastor Shane Vaughn RESPONDS to viewers letters concerning THE RAPTURE of the church Summary: Pastor Shane Vaughn responds to a letter questioning the pre-millennial rapture theory by exegetically examining key New Testament passages commonly cited in support of it. He argues that 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 actually disprove the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine, demonstrating that the catching away of believers occurs at the last Trump when Yahshua physically returns, not seven years before. The pastor emphasizes that believers will meet the Lord in the clouds (the atmosphere) and return with Him to Earth to rule and reign, not be taken to heaven to avoid tribulation. Pastor Shane Vaughn RESPONDS to viewers letters concerning THE RAPTURE of the church Shane Vaughn ——— First Harvest Ministries International ken to heaven to avoid tribulation. Pastor Shane Vaughn RESPONDS to viewers letters concerning THE RAPTURE of the church Shane Vaughn ——— First Harvest Ministries International 1 this is Pastor first Harvest Ministries and I received a letter today that I would like to respond to and break it down for you and answer the questions that was asked to me in this letter if you have not watched our teaching called uh what was that teaching called let's see one shall be left and one shall be taken if you've not seen it please go watch it it's it's what we believe about the pre-millennial Rapture and as you know if you've not watched it then I'll tell you now we do not adhere to a pre-millennial Rapture Theory I won't explain why in this video but I did explain why in that 2 video so go watch it before you watch this one it's called one shall be left one shall be taken oh where can you find it hold on I'll show you it's real easy go right there to uh fhtv.tv and you'll see it right there when you get there and if that doesn't work you can always go to our YouTube channel up there right there scan that you can go over to the YouTube channel um and find that teaching all right so a lady d if that doesn't work you can always go to our YouTube channel up there right there scan that you can go over to the YouTube channel um and find that teaching all right so a lady watched that teaching and she sent me a letter very sweet letter she disagrees with me and thank God for America you're able to do that and um but the way she wrote the letter was so 3 kind and so considerate that it just demanded that I respond to it and so I thought the best way to do it would right here to where every one of you can read the letter and go through the scriptures that she lists and maybe it would be a help to you and understanding some of these difficult scriptures that seems to indicate there will be a Rapture before the Lord returns so let's go to her letter I'm gonna pull it up for you and um we're going to go through it we're gonna have a good time doing it get your Bible might as well go ahead and get your Bible so that you can know how to answer some 4 of these questions okay this is her letter dear Pastor Vaughn good morning I am one of the true hearted Patriots in class when that bell rings she said I was about to send an offering for the fire victims but in the meantime I Pastor Vaughn good morning I am one of the true hearted Patriots in class when that bell rings she said I was about to send an offering for the fire victims but in the meantime I really need you to explain these scriptures for me and we're going to do that the first one we're going to go to is First Corinthians 1551-54 so I'm going to stop sharing that and let's go over to Blue Letter Bible and pull those scriptures up and let's start there today now these scriptures is what she's putting as to why she does believe in a pre-tribulation Rapture so 5 let's go read the scriptures and see what it says behold I show you a mystery this is Paul speaking we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed so basically what that means is there will be some people when yahshua returns that will be alive they will not be asleep or dead or in the grave and if they're not then Paul tells us what's going to happen to those people verse 52. 6 in a moment in the twinkling of an eye at the last Trump now dear Lord I I'd like for you to look when this change happens it happens at the last Trump now the Rapture Theory tells us that the Rapture will take place seven years before the last Trump of God ike for you to look when this change happens it happens at the last Trump now the Rapture Theory tells us that the Rapture will take place seven years before the last Trump of God sounds okay so let's let's look at this scripture the scripture you're asking me to read actually proves that there will be no pre-millennial rapture because this change that the scripture is talking about happens when at the last Trump of Yahweh and when is the last Trump of Yahweh when Yeshua physically returns if you'll go read in the 7 Bible it says that he will return at the last Trump with the shout and the voice of the Archangel okay so as I'm reading I'm already seeing the timing of these scriptures at the last Trump and that really is the context and the timing of when all of this transpires when we shall be changed for the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised incorruptible and we shall be changed so Paul is actually speaking against a premillennial Rapture here he is telling us that when the trumpet sounds which the trumpet doesn't sound at the so-called rapture because that's a secret rapture that's a 8 Rapture where everyone's supposed to be driving down the road and one disappears hich the trumpet doesn't sound at the so-called rapture because that's a secret rapture that's a 8 Rapture where everyone's supposed to be driving down the road and one disappears and one is left and there's no trumpet sounding there's no return of Christ it's us disappearing supposedly but Paul tells us in verse 52 that the trumpet shall sound and then the dead will be raised why because they were not raised seven years earlier in a so-called rapture they don't get raised until the trumpet sounds and the trumpet doesn't sound until yahshua physically returns and then for those of us that are alive when the trumpet sounds we will be instantly changed our DNA structure will be completely 9 changed by the sounding of that shofar that trumpet the dead will rise we will be changed and then Together We will rise to meet yahshua in the middle of the air he will display us before the whole world as their new government that will that will be establishing the kingdom of Yahweh right here on Earth let's keep reading she wanted me to read through 54. 10 for this corruptable must put on incorruption and this Mortal must put on immortality so when this corruptable shall put on incorruption ading she wanted me to read through 54. 10 for this corruptable must put on incorruption and this Mortal must put on immortality so when this corruptable shall put on incorruption and this Mortal shall put on immortality then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written death is swallowed up in Victory all right so that was one of the scriptures she wanted me to look at and I've looked at it and I see no Rapture there let's keep reading her letter and let's see what she wants us to look at next then in first Thessalonians 4 16 and 17 let's go read and then she says right here emphatically that that is the rapture let's find out first Thessalonians 4 16 and 17. 11 all right let's look at it together for the Lord himself yahshua shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel and with the Trump of God and the dead and Christ shall rise first then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet yahshua in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord now according to this dear lady she said this is the rapture but once again it totally denies the rapture remember for clarity the rapture teaching in the Christian with the Lord now according to this dear lady she said this is the rapture but once again it totally denies the rapture remember for clarity the rapture teaching in the Christian church es that before yahshua Returns the church will leave the Earth and bypass 12 the tribulation the dead in Christ will rise in the Rapture and they will be gone seven years before Jesus that's what the whole Left Behind series was all about but in fact just read just read these verses and it says the total opposite of a Rapture now let me clarify something the word rapture simply means catching away now we do believe the Saints will be caught away in the air to meet the Lord we believe that but that's not how Christianity believes it they believe that the Saints will be caught up to meet the Lord in heaven that they're going to heaven seven years before Christ returns to 13 bypass the Great Tribulation so we do believe in the catching away we do believe in the rapture we don't believe in the pre-millennial rapture we don't believe there will be a catching away to avoid the tribulation and these verses prove it let's look at them again for Yeshua himself will come down from heaven with what the shout believe there will be a catching away to avoid the tribulation and these verses prove it let's look at them again for Yeshua himself will come down from heaven with what the shout the voice of the Archangel and with the Trump of Yahweh didn't we just read in a previous verse that we shall be changed when the trumpet sounds and now we're showing you that the trumpet doesn't sound unto yahshua leaves heaven and comes to Earth the dead in Christ 14 will rise at the trumpet sound not one day or seven years earlier verse 17 then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together now there's your rapture we will be caught up together but the question is to where we were always taught to heaven but is that what the Bible says no it says we will be caught up together in the clouds where is the clouds in the first Heaven the atmosphere and that's exactly where you and I will be elevated to in our new bodies that has no limitations of gravity that new body will rise to meet the Lord in the air and then we will ever be with the Lord 15 because you can read another verse I'll pull it up in a moment where once we meet him in the air we settle right back down with him on the Mount of e will ever be with the Lord 15 because you can read another verse I'll pull it up in a moment where once we meet him in the air we settle right back down with him on the Mount of Olives to rule and reign with him over the Earth not in heaven you have to read that into that scripture that we're going to heaven no we're going to the clouds and the clouds are not in heaven not in the third heaven anyway they're right here that's where we will go and then we will settle back down after he has displayed us as trophies of Grace and we will settle with him when he puts his foot on the Mount of Olives all right so let's go back to 16 the letter and see what else we can get all right she says in her her letter you ask us why take us away since we're going to be here to rule she said but that is after Christ returns with his Saints all right sounds good she gives us a scripture reference let's go look it up Jude verse 14. 17 and verse 15. all right let's go pull that up the book of Jude we're going to go to verse 14 and verse 15. 18 and see what scripture she's talking about all right let's see and Enoch also the seventh from Adam prophesied of these saying behold Yeshua cometh with ten se 14 and verse 15. 18 and see what scripture she's talking about all right let's see and Enoch also the seventh from Adam prophesied of these saying behold Yeshua cometh with ten thousands of his Saints to execute judgment upon all to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly Deeds which they have committed and all of their heart speeches which ungodly Sinners have spoken against yahshua all right this is supposed to be proving a rapture but it's not okay so according to the letter writer she says that yahshua since he is coming with ten thousands of his saints that that must mean those Saints 19 are going to come with him from heaven that's not what it says you're assuming that but if you'll go right back to the scripture we just read in first Thessalonians you'll see exactly where those Saints are that he's coming with they were dead or Alive Maybe they rose up to meet him in the clouds that's where they come with him back to the Earth they will be right there in the clouds and then together we will escort our groom back to planet Earth we will be his welcoming party and we will and that scripture will be fulfilled in the book of Jude yahshua will come with n together we will escort our groom back to planet Earth we will be his welcoming party and we will and that scripture will be fulfilled in the book of Jude yahshua will come with ten thousands of his 20 Saints from where the clouds the atmosphere where we have just been raised together with him again not one iota of a Rapture a pre-millennial Rapture where we bypass tribulation this all happens at the last Trump of God the physical coming of Yeshua all right so let's go back to her letter again and keep reading now she quotes first Thessalonians 4 13 and 14. 21 so let's go look at that first Thessalonians 4 verse 13. 22 let's see what it says okay this let's look at it together but I would not have you to be ignorant brethren concerning them which are asleep now this is one that's going to require you to pay attention what is our context death Paul is encouraging the church about the dead that have given their lives for the gospel he is telling them don't be ignorant concerning those which are dead or asleep notice he didn't say they were in heaven walking around he said they're asleep that's what we teach amen he said don't be sorrowful even as others which have no hope now who sleep notice he didn't say they were in heaven walking around he said they're asleep that's what we teach amen he said don't be sorrowful even as others which have no hope now who are those others that he's 23 talking about that has no hope those that do not believe in a resurrection all right he's telling us don't be like those people that have no hope let's keep reading for if we believe that Yeshua died and rose again even so them also which sleep in yahshua will God bring with him now this is where it gets tricky because if you just read that verse of scripture the way it's written in the King James version then it could be a little wait a minute God's bringing these dead people with him when he comes from Heaven that's what it looks like no that's not what it's saying and I'll prove it to you 24 all we have to do is look at the flow of these verses it's all about the resurrection of the Dead okay it's it's stating for a fact that if God Yahweh raised up yahshua from the dead and we know that the Bible tells us that Yahweh raised up yahshua from the dead all right here it says that if he raised yahshua from the dead then also will Yahweh bring with him so what does that mean ble tells us that Yahweh raised up yahshua from the dead all right here it says that if he raised yahshua from the dead then also will Yahweh bring with him so what does that mean bring with yahshua let's take a look and find out let's go and look up the word with him now this is where it's confusing let's find out that this word with is the Greek word soon and soon has three possible 25 meanings with or beside or a company now as we continue our study we can go to the root word where soon comes from which is meta and Mata has three meanings with after or what behind brothers and sisters allow me to show you exactly what this scripture is saying yahshua was called the first of the first fruits he was the first of the first fruits here's what Paul is saying do not be afraid because if Yeshua if Yahweh God raised yahshua from the dead then those that are asleep will Yahweh also bring behind Yeshua or alongside yahshua or beside yahshua as the firstfruits in other words Yahweh 26 will bring the rest of the Dead behind Yeshua yahshua was the first so therefore have no fear and I'll prove that in another verse give me one second let's go and look up where Paul tells us the exact same Dead behind Yeshua yahshua was the first so therefore have no fear and I'll prove that in another verse give me one second let's go and look up where Paul tells us the exact same thing but he says it in a different way First Corinthians 15. 27 uh and uh 22. 28 for as in Adam all die so in Christ shall all be made alive but every man in his own order now that word order there is the Greek word tagma and tagma means an arrangement right there like a body of soldiers placed in order so the imagery here is soldiers in rank and he says in this verse that Yeshua if you read right here in verse 24 I'm sorry verse 23 every man in his own order Christ is the the first fruit then afterwards they that are his at his coming Paul said and he made it very plain in the verse we were just reading but I would not have you ignorant Brethren concerning the dead have 29 no fear if Yahweh raised up I hope I I don't think I showed you on my screen the meaning of those words I didn't realize I wasn't sharing the screen uh let me do it one more time just in case you missed that um where I showed to you the word with what it means it's right here uh it's the Greek word soon and soon has three meanings et me do it one more time just in case you missed that um where I showed to you the word with what it means it's right here uh it's the Greek word soon and soon has three meanings with besides or a company if you go to the root which is meta you have three meanings with after or behind all right so it's important that you understand that it doesn't say it sort of sounds like God's gonna bring us with him out of heaven but you're assuming that 30 it says that the context has nothing to do with Heaven it has to do with the dead and it says if Yahweh raised up yahshua first have no fear yah will also Yahweh will also raise us up after or beside or alongside of yahshua that's what it means you cannot argue that and so all right so let's go back to the scripture and read more I'm sorry back to her letter let's see where we left off she said uh Thessalonians 3 13. 31 speaks of the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his Saints is the Bible wrong never the Bible is never wrong ever or my understanding now that is a possibility that we all must face the Bible is never wrong but our understanding definitely can be until we learn some basic doctrines one basic doctrine that I recommend that s a possibility that we all must face the Bible is never wrong but our understanding definitely can be until we learn some basic doctrines one basic doctrine that I recommend that you all learn is what happens to the Dead I've done many teachings on that it's over on fhtv.tv let me right there on your screen let me stop sharing sorry about that so I recommend that you go watch that teaching when you get to fhtv.tv or it may be on our YouTube channel I 32 know it's on our Rumble Channel just type in the word dead and it'll bring up all of our teachings on what happens to the dead let's see oh yeah there's our Rumble right there is a our QR code to find us on Rumble QR code to find us on YouTube um let's see let's go back to her letter and we'll see if there's more that we need to go over let's see there we go all right Thessalonians five and nine she says okay this is a good one let's go look at that first Thessalonians 5 and 9. 33 okay this is a good one a lot of people use this one um let's try to pull it up there it is for Yahweh has not appointed us to Wrath but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ why don't we do this always go up and let's find our context let's start t up there it is for Yahweh has not appointed us to Wrath but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ why don't we do this always go up and let's find our context let's start at verse six therefore let us not sleep as do others but let us watch and be sober for they that sleep sleep in the night and they that are drunken or drunken in the night but let us who are of the day be sober putting on the breastplate of faith and love for a helmet the hope of salvation for Yahweh has not appointed us to Wrath but to obtain 34 salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ now supposedly that word wrath is speaking of the Great Tribulation but it's not you have to read that in to that verse if you find your context it's all about salvation it's all about us being protected from the wrath of God which is eternal death that's the Wrath that's coming up on all mankind except they accept Yeshua as their savior do you see how we read things in he has not appointed us to Wrath he didn't say he's not appointed us to the Great Tribulation because if that's what it's referring to then how do we say that God didn't appoint the apostles 35 to wrath didn't they all die horrible deaths the early church Great Tribulation because if that's what it's referring to then how do we say that God didn't appoint the apostles 35 to wrath didn't they all die horrible deaths the early church massacred by the wrath of this world why were they appointed to Wrath but we're not no it's not talking about the tribulation it's speaking of the wrath of God on all of mankind which the wages of sin is death that is the Wrath and only salvation can save us from that wrath all right let's go back to the letter and let's continue all right Thessalonians 1 and 10. 36 speaks of his son which delivered us from the Wrath to come all right let's go look at it first Thessalonians 1 and 10. 37 all right let's see what the scripture says okay so once again this is a call to Salvation the whole chapter and it ends for they themselves show us what manner of entering in we had unto you and how you turn to God from Idols to serve the living and true God and to wait for his son to return from heaven whom he has raised from the dead even Yeshua which delivered us from the Wrath to come what did yahshua deliver you and I from death he gives us eternal life saving us from the wrath of God which is death again nothing in ua which delivered us from the Wrath to come what did yahshua deliver you and I from death he gives us eternal life saving us from the wrath of God which is death again nothing in the world to do with tribulation we truly are reading that into the text 38 all right let's see what else um now then she quotes Galatians 1 11 and 12 but she's not using that to prove the Rapture she's using that to prove that Paul wrote These verses and he is had more Revelation than any of the other Apostles so she is trying to show me there that Paul uh said he wrote all those verses that we just read proving there's a Rapture before Jesus returns and we should listen to Paul because he says that he had more Revelation and he did that's called progressive revelation but again nothing to do with the subject at hand really all right and then she quotes Thessalonians 39 2 and 3 and that is the end of her letter so let me go look and see we can pull that up first Thessalonians 2 and 3. 40 uh uh that that must be the wrong verse um let's see first Thessalonians 2 and 3 no second sorry sorry second Thessalonians 2 and 3. 41 let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come except there come a um let's see first Thessalonians 2 and 3 no second sorry sorry second Thessalonians 2 and 3. 41 let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition who opposeth and exalt himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped so that he asked God sitteth in the temple of God showing again nothing to do with the Rapture uh because it tells us plainly that this context is about that day what day the seventh day the seventh thousandth year the return of Christ which we believe in all of that so again I've read your letter uh and I see nothing that proves a pre-millennial rapture to protect us from the tribulation if I'm wrong someone else is more than welcome to write and straighten us out thank you for watching bye everybody