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05/11/2019-What REALLY happened to ENOCH and Elijah

FHMI-0069Shane Vaughn2019-05-10sermon

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  • (primary) John 3:13
  • (secondary) Genesis 5:24
  • (secondary) Hebrews 11:5
  • (secondary) John 10:35
  • (secondary) Hebrews 9:27
  • (secondary) Hebrews 11:13
  • (secondary) Daniel 3:19
  • (secondary) Daniel 3:20
  • (secondary) Daniel 3:21
  • (secondary) Daniel 3:22
  • (secondary) Daniel 3:23
  • (secondary) Daniel 3:24
  • (secondary) Daniel 3:25
  • (secondary) Daniel 3:26
  • (secondary) Daniel 3:27
  • (secondary) Acts 8:39
  • (secondary) Acts 8:40
  • (secondary) 2 Kings 2:9
  • (secondary) 2 Kings 2:10
  • (secondary) 2 Kings 2:11
  • (secondary) 2 Kings 2:12
  • (secondary) 2 Kings 13:14
  • (secondary) 2 Chronicles 21:12
  • (secondary) 2 Chronicles 21:13
  • (secondary) 2 Chronicles 21:14
  • (secondary) 2 Chronicles 21:15
  • (secondary) Acts 2:29
  • (secondary) Acts 2:34
  • (secondary) Matthew 16:27
  • (secondary) Matthew 16:28
  • (secondary) Matthew 17:1
  • (secondary) Matthew 17:2
  • (secondary) Matthew 17:3
  • (secondary) Matthew 17:7
  • (secondary) Matthew 17:8
  • (secondary) Matthew 17:9
  • (secondary) Deuteronomy 34:5
  • (secondary) Jude 1:9
  • (secondary) 1 Samuel 28:11
  • (secondary) 1 Samuel 28:12
  • (secondary) 1 Samuel 28:13
  • (secondary) 1 Samuel 28:14
  • (secondary) 1 Samuel 28:15
  • (secondary) 1 Samuel 28:19

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(93) What REALLY happened to ENOCH and Elijah by Shane Vaughn of First Harvest Ministries - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtvhllPlI-w Transcript: (00:09) good morning if you're listening to me live this is the Sabbath day so I say shabbat shalom to my friends around the world if you're listening to the recorded version then I speak Shalom to you I pray that this is a wonderful day for every one of you and that the Lord has truly and richly blessed all of you today I'm going to deal with a subject that I'm often asked about it brings a lot of confusion to people and so I'm going to try my best by the help of the Holy Spirit to bring Clarity to this subject now this is basically a (00:50) follow-up lesson to the lesson we did last week concerning what happens to the dead now people are surprised when they ask ask me of all the things we teach about what do I think is one of the most important things and they're surprised whenever I tell them that it's my teaching on the dead now the reason that is is because if you don't understand what happens to the dead you will get all of your other doctrines wrong in the word of God your rapture will be wrong your Resurrection will be wrong so many things line up with this subject and now (01:35) for those of you that have not seen our earlier video I encourage you to go watch it it's on our YouTube channel entitled what happens to the dead now before we proceed with this lesson if you're watching live would you just comment let me know where you're watching from and uh if you don't mind if you want to be a blessing to this ministry you could um uh you could just press the share button and get this message out to your friends your neighbors your social media platforms and um it would be a blessing to us uh and to those that are (02:16) watching so with that said go ahead hit the share button hit the love button comment tell us hello and we're going to get right into this lesson today so here's the question if the dead are sleep as we teach and they are not in heaven and they are not in hell then what about Enoch and Elijah now many people every time I teach this this is the two characters they always bring up because the Bible supposedly says Enoch went to heaven and it supposedly says that Elijah went to heaven so brother on if the dead are (03:01) asleep if they're not in heaven then what about Enoch and Elijah so in this live stream today we are going to bring you to the word of God and when we are done you're going to find out that Enoch is dead and Elijah is dead and it's going to be so plain that you're going to never again question this because we're going to explain it with so many scriptures now before we go into the word of God I want to explain this to you there's something called the scope of scripture every Doctrine must be established in the Old Testament and the (03:45) New Testament every teaching that you listen to must be founded in the prophets and the Torah and the New Testament so today we are going to tie together all three of those Witnesses and prove to you what really happened to Enoch and what really happened to Elijah now first of all let's read um the first scripture that we want to deal with and that is in Hebrews uh 11 and verse 5 uh actually let's start Genesis 5:24 the Bible says in Genesis 5 and 24 Enoch walked with God and he was not for God took him now do you know that those (04:39) people that disagree with our teachings that is the verse they go to to try to prove that see brother Von Enoch is in heaven because it says Enoch walked with God and he basically disappeared and God took him now I'm going to tell you whenever we line this up with all the other verses that prove the dead are asleep it's going to fall apart right before your eyes now let's go to Hebrews 11 and5 it says by faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death and was not found because God had taken him now these two verses are the only two (05:29) verses in the Bible that seemed to indicate that Enoch did not die that he supposedly went to heaven but we're going to see if that's what the Bible says John chap 10 verse 35 plainly says that the scriptures cannot be broken John 10:35 read that for yourself it says that the scriptures cannot disagree with one another so we just read two scriptures that seems to say that Enoch died I mean I'm sorry that Enoch went to heaven now if we find other scriptures that say otherwise then that means the scriptures are (06:14) broken and what did John 10:35 just tell us the scriptures cannot be broken now there's a reason I teach on these subjects brother V why do you teach so intently on these trivial subjects and I'm going to tell you why because Satan has an agenda to discredit the word of God if Satan can plant doubt in your mind that God's word is not perfect from front to back then he can cause you to doubt God my Ministry has been called to make the word of God perfect before your eyes to make it make sense from front to back that way Satan does not have a (07:04) foothold into your mind so concerning this subject we must clear up the Loose Ends we must tie them together we must prove to you that God's word doesn't say one thing in one place and something else in another for example the Bible says in Hebrews chapter 9 verse 27 now if you're taking notes right now and I see some of you are because you're commenting on the live stream if you are taking notes right now I want you to put in one column the scriptures that seem to say that Enoch is in heaven and then I want (07:43) you to take another column and I want you to uh put the scriptures that seem to say otherwise and remember the scriptures cannot be broken now here's a scripture Hebrews 9:27 are you ready write this one down it is appointed unto all men to die and after this the Judgment now if this verse says that it's appointed unto all men to die if that's what it says then if Enoch didn't die what does that tell you the scriptures broken correct is that I mean think about it just just put your thinking cap on if the Bible says all men have to (08:38) die and after this they go to the Judgment they don't go to heaven they don't go to hell they go to the judgment and Jesus tells us yua tells us that he he has appointed a certain day I apologize hold on folks I've got I got things going crazy here give me one second all right there we go so if the scriptures say two different things what are you going to do about that are you going to ignore it Satan would love for you to ignore it you know why it plants seeds of doubt in your mind but on this sabbath day we want to (09:14) get those seeds of Doubt out and show you how perfect your Bible is from front to back all right so one scripture says it's appointed unto all men to die and another scripture says Enoch did not die what do we do with that well I tell you what we do we prove the meaning of those particular verses now let's let's go read another scripture and see how this one lines up let's go to John chapter 3 and verse 13 St John 3 and 13 now the verse we're about to study was written 60 years after yua went to heaven I want (09:53) you to remember that it was written 60 years after y Yeshua went to heaven John wrote this verse in John 3 and verse 13 what does this verse say no man has ascended to Heaven except he that came down from heaven that is the son of man who is in heaven now read that again no man has gone to heaven EX except for yua now y John wrote that 60 years after Christ died 60 years so John is saying that there's no human in heaven except for Yeshua again what do we have a problem because we seem to think that Enoch is in heaven how can he be John said says (11:00) no one has gone to heaven except yua you see how the Bible if you listen to the critics and the Skeptics they will Point these scriptures out to show you how your Bible is messed up but I'm fixing to join those scriptures together for you and show you how your Bible is perfect that's the ministry of first Harvest Ministries that is what we do we prove the word of God to be perfect because it is perfect now according to Hebrews and Genesis Enoch did not see death now here's another problem we run into in Hebrews (11:45) chapter 11 we read in verse five by faith Enoch was taken away now notice it doesn't say he was taken to Heaven did you notice that it just says he was taken away that he wouldn't see death and nobody could find him now listen to this carefully let's read Hebrews 11:5 Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death now go down a few more verses will you will you just scroll down to verse 13 for me of the same chapter of the book of Hebrews what does it say it lists Enoch and it starts listing a whole bunch of (12:28) other people and what does it say these all died do you do you see that Enoch is in that list it says these all died brothers and sisters in verse five it says that Enoch God took him that he wouldn't see death and yet in the 13th verse of the selfs same chapter what does it say these all died now either they all died or they all did not die you you cannot make the Bible say two different things because the scriptures are not broken now so what happened I'm going to tell you what happened and it's plain and it's simple (13:30) if you read The Book of Enoch that was written by Enoch he tells you what happens he tells you that God sent the angels and they took him on a journey they took him they literally took him and that's where we got the Enoch calendar and and so many other things from is God now this was known by Moses I mean I'm Sorry by Noah Methuselah all of them told the story of how one day Enoch was translated with the angels now it's quite possible that there was an event that took place in Enoch's life where he was going to see death where he (14:16) was going to die prematurely maybe his enemies were out to get him and God delivered him now let me ask you a question do you know of anybody else that God took them so so that they would not see death I do have you ever heard of the three Hebrew children Shadrach mesak and Abednego you ever heard of them you remember they were thrown in the fire and something happened to them so that they would not see death absolutely they were taking they were transported supernaturally just like uh Phillip was do you remember Phillip the Evangelist (15:01) in the New Testament the Bible said he was walking along and all of a sudden God took him and he winds up in a total different place supernaturally because God took him Enoch this is exactly what happened to Enoch Enoch died because it's appointed unto all men want to die and then the Judgment all right now let's talk about Elijah now Elijah you remember he went up in a chariot of fire and he went to heaven well the Bible never says he went to heaven that's what we've added to the bible let me tell you the story and and (15:43) why we know he did not go to heaven Elijah and Elisha are walking together and God has determined that Elijah is over with his ministry as the pastor of is Israel is over and it's time for Elisha to take over so Elijah is walking with Elisha and he tells Elijah Elisha three times he tries to get away from Elisha and move out of the picture he tells Elisha I'm G to walk over here son and Elisha said not so my Lord I'll go with you and another time go read go read the story another time Elijah tries to get away from Elisha and (16:29) Elisha says no master I'll go wherever you go a third time Elijah is trying to get out of the way for Elisha to take over and again Elisha would not let Elijah go so all of a sudden a tornado comes a whirlwind comes a supernatural event happens now notice carefully with me the Bible tells us that whenever he was taken away it was on a chariot of fire with horses listen brothers and sisters do you know that this is not the only time that those Chariots of Fire and those horses are mentioned no it was a common custom when (17:22) someone of importance in Israel died when they were dying and you can go find the in your Bible it's mentioned three other times when a king was dying they would say the the Chariots of Israel and the horsemen thereof that was a common epith that was spoken at the time of death and so when Elijah was taken away on the supposed Chariot first of all what kind of Chariot can ride through the sky with horses pulling it come on people wake up and smell the coffee this was a euphemism this was an expression of what (18:06) it was like when a king died in Israel Elisha was attributing to Elijah the status of a king that's how important he was to Israel and he said the Chariots of Fire and the horsemen thereof go read when the Kings died through the book of Kings they use the same expression now notice this once Elijah is taken away a funny thing happens those that were watching now notice this those that were watching the school of the prophets those boys that were watching they saw this and do you know for three days the Bible said they searched for (18:49) Elijah I don't have time to read all this to you today but go read it for yourself for three days they were looking for Elijah now I've got a question for all of you if you would have seen somebody supernaturally transported on Chariots of Fire with horses riding through the sky would you spend three days looking for them would you would you spend three days looking for him of course not they saw a whirlwind they saw a natural phenomenon that carried Elijah away there was nothing Heavenly about it there was nothing supernat natural about (19:29) it now I'm going to prove it to you even further um we find in the book of 2 Chronicles chap 21 verse 12 through verse 15 are you ready for what I'm about to show you in th in those verses seven years after Elijah supposedly went to heaven now write this down 2 Chronicles 21:1 12-15 seven years after Elijah supposedly went into the galaxies and went to heaven guess what happens seven years later King jehoram is sitting in his Palace he was an evil King somebody knocks on his door and brings him a letter and that letter is telling him to (20:24) get right with Yahweh or God's going to destroy Israel now guess who wrote that letter to him come on guess who it was it you ain't got to guess it tells you the letter was written by Elijah seven years after he supposedly went to heaven now unless they've got a new male service in heaven that I don't know about you know FedEx maybe we could call it Heaven X I don't know but a hand Written Letter From a dead man who's in heaven came to the king let me tell you what happened Elijah was called away into another place in Israel his body was forcibly (21:13) removed from Elisha so that Elijah could take his place as the new pastor of the House of Israel God sent Elijah into retirement into a letterr Ministry and that's what happened it's that plain and it is that simple now all men have died you're gonna die Elijah died Enoch died the Bible said these all died in the faith they will all wake up at the same time that you're going to wake up on that first getting up morning the resurrection that's when now let me show you I'm going to show you somebody else that's going to get up um on that same (22:01) morning amen go with me to the book of Acts now this verse was written many years after yua died after he was resurrected I want to show you who else is going to get up with us on that great getting up morning now let me ask all of you a question if anybody should be in heaven right now who should it be would you agree King David should be in heaven amen all right let's go to Acts chapter 2 and verse 29 here's what the Apostle Peter said I don't care what your psychic preacher says your super spiritual Guru non Bible (22:41) believing pastor says here's what the Apostle said Acts chapter 2 and verse 25 I'm sorry verse 29 men and Brethren let me speak unto you of the patriarch David he is both dead and buried and he's with us to this day now let's read verse 34 for David has not ascended into heaven amen did you hear that the Apostle said David was not in heaven there's only one way you can make the whole Bible line up and that's get under a teacher that has the anointing to teach the truth of the word of Yahweh way you're you're not going to hear this (23:32) in your church because first of all if you don't have correct biblical foundations you can't interpret all of this but we understand that if David's not in heaven why would Enoch be why would Elijah be are they any more special than David They're All Dead darling every single one of them God's no respector of person they're all dead David's dead now they're all going to get up in the first resurrection some of you are going to get up in the first resurrection not all of you cuz all of you is not the bride not all of you is in the (24:09) 144,000 some of you is going to come up in the second Resurrection that's when the church the body comes up the bride comes up in the first resurrection if you don't understand the difference in what I just said please go to our YouTube channel and watch our video on the bride and the body now let's continue because we we're almost done now um I want to show you one more scripture that people try to use to prove that Elijah is alive and uh and and they go to the New Testament and I believe we're if I'm not mistaken it's in the third (24:52) gospel um I'm going to verify that but I want to show you a scripture that a lot of people try to use to disprove our teaching on death there we go yeah it's a Matthew 1628 go there with me Matthew 16:28 now let's start at verse 27 Matthew 16:27 for the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels and then he shall reward every man according to his works now I could preach right there but I'm not it's not by your faith it's by your anyway he said' verily I say unto you there are some standing here which shall not taste (25:39) of death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom now if you've ever had a debate with a Muslim this is a verse they love to use to prove inaccuracy in the word of God because every everybody that was standing there that day with yua every one of them's dead but yet yesu told them that they would not he said there are some of you standing here not all of you but there's a certain few of you which will not taste of death until they see the son of man coming in his kingdom well guess what brother V that never happened they all died Di (26:29) and he never came that is not true that is not true all I want you to do is go down one verse go one verse down if you're reading Matthew 16:28 now I want you to go to Matthew 17 and one one verse down and the story continues see the problem with many of you you don't understand your Bible was not originally written with chapters and verses and these chapters can mess everything up but if you keep reading the story he says there's some of you standing here which will see the son of man coming in his glory before you (27:12) die well when did that happen in the very next verse go to Matthew 17 And1 and after six days now remember when does Yeshua come in his glory on the what day day the Sabbath day the 7,000th year of time so now notice this after six days now what day would the day after six days be the Sabbath day after he brings them seven days later yua took Peter James and John now what did he say in the previous verse there are some of you specifically three of you standing here that will not die before you see the son of man in his ascended Glory what he's (28:10) going to look like in that glory and notice in verse two and he was transfigured he was changed from his human nature to his glorified nature right before them and his face did Shine Like the Sun and his rment was white as the light now this is when they saw him coming in his glory because this is his glory the light the white this is his glory they saw it these three men saw him what he's going to look like they saw the same vision that John saw of the day of the Lord the seventh day the Sabbath day the 7,000th (29:03) year they saw it and then here's something that happened and behold there appeared unto them Moses and Elijah talking with them see brother vau there's Elijah he's not dead he must be in heaven because he came and talked to them well he wasn't by himself there's Moses nobody ever claimed that Moses didn't die the Bible tells us Moses died Satan argued over Moses's body do you remember so what's Moses doing here because if David's not in heaven why is Moses in heaven I we'll help you make the whole Bible line up if you'll just follow our (29:48) ministry because we've been called by God to do this so what's Moses and Elijah doing there well first of all they represent the two aspects of yahweh's ministry the law and the prophets now brother brother Von how could they be there if they're not dead I'm fixing to show you the Bible's fixing to show you let's keep reading and we're going to skip down because the rest of it you know it's it's it's a non sear to what we're teaching here keep reading you can read it all you want to uh but we're going to go down um verse (30:29) uh verse 8 verse 7 I'm sorry Matthew 17 and 7 something happened to them and Yeshua touched him and said arise and don't be afraid and when they lifted up their eyes now they didn't see the same yua that they had seen a moment ago now they saw a man y Yeshua no man except for Jesus he was the only human they saw now they didn't see anything El everything has disappeared as quickly as it came and as verse n and as they came down from the mountain yua charged them saying tell the vision to no man until the son of man be risen again (31:23) from the dead brothers and sisters read that verse what did they just see did they literally have Elijah come talk to them did they literally have Moses come talk to them did Jesus literally change before them no they had a vision of the Lord's day just like John the Revelator had in the Book of Revelation they had a vision what did John say he said I don't know if I was in my body I don't he said I was just taken up into the Lord's Day they were taken in the Lord's Day by Vision they saw a vision of Yahweh yua (32:07) coming in his glorified body and these were those that would not taste of death until they saw this now why didn't yua wanted to tell this Vision to nobody because if if they would have went told anybody that honey they'd have killed the man Jesus that day so anyway this proves that no it wasn't Elijah that was talking to them it wasn't Moses Elijah and Moses is going to be part of the kingdom of Yahweh that comes in the day of Yeshua in the day of the Lord now in closing I think I've dealt with pretty much I've (32:47) tried to deal with uh as much of these um distractions as I can but if you're still now somebody likes to point out okay I just got a question here live let me see if I can comment on it all right so someone is asking what about uh Samuel and The Witch of indor whenever the witch called Samuel from the dead all right great question I love this question because it it puts a nail in the coffin for us and we'll close with this so Samuel is dead and all of a sudden his Spirit comes back and talks to King Saul Brothers and (33:31) Sisters I would have you to go read that story and you will find out that this witch when she called Samuel up Samuel is going to verify for all of you what we teach he asked the witch why did you wake me up from my sleep he was asleep now for whatever reason Yahweh allowed him to come and speak to Saul uh you know I don't I don't understand why but God allowed it but here's what we do know Samuel said tomorrow Saul you will sleep with me Samuel proves to us that The Souls of men are asleep until the resurrection amen I pray this was a (34:24) blessing to you please please please share this teaching I it don't it's not that hard for you to push the share button folks get the message of Truth to your social media platforms I'm begging you why because there's somebody out there today that is part of Israel they don't know it but when they hear this teaching it's going to resonate in their spirit e

Summary

This teaching follows up the message on the state of the dead by answering common objections about Enoch and Elijah. The speaker argues that neither man is alive in heaven, because the broader witness of Scripture says all men die, the dead sleep, and only Yahshua has ascended to heaven. The lesson also explains Elijah’s whirlwind, the Mount of Transfiguration, and Samuel’s appearance as passages that must fit the larger doctrine of resurrection and death as sleep.

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State of the Dead

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